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Republican Insiders Plan for a Convention Fight Against Donald Trump or Ted Cruz
Time Magazine ^ | February 18, 2016 | Zeke J. Miller

Posted on 02/18/2016 1:51:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

For all the jostling and jockeying taking place in South Carolina ahead of this weekend's Republican primary, little of it will be decisive.

If anything, the outcome Saturday night only stands to muddy an already messy contest to lead a deeply fractured Republican Party. Losers may not be forced to leave the race, and the still-uncertain winner will leave the state with nothing guaranteed.

The growing consensus among many senior Republicans is that there are three likely outcomes facing Republicans. Donald Trump could win enough delegates to be the nominee. Ted Cruz could do the same. Or no candidate emerges from the final primaries on June 7 with the required 1,237 delegates to win when the intra-party convention starts in Cleveland.

That means the remaining candidates with a claim to party establishment backing--Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush--see their chances for winning the nomination before the July convention dwindling. National and early-state polls have shown Trump and Cruz polling with a combined share of more than half of party voters. The also-rans do not have a clear path, barring a sudden collapse in support for Trump or Cruz, to cobble together sufficient support to put up a roadblock to the outsiders' aggressions, even if two of the candidates agreed to drop out to unite behind the third....

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; cruz; election2016; florida; iowa; jebbush; marcorubio; newhampshire; newyork; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas; timemagazine; trump; zekejmiller
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who will M C this gala comedy show? How about Michael Moore?


41 posted on 02/18/2016 3:12:52 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Amy Schumer? Pee Wee Herman? Al Gore?


42 posted on 02/18/2016 3:14:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: diamond6

Speaking from personal experience, Trump, right now, is about where I was about five years after I seriously started paying attention to politics and grew out of peer-induced go-along leftism.


43 posted on 02/18/2016 3:14:45 PM PST by Luircin (The difference between lesser evil and greater good is who gets schlonged in the end.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They Republican party is over if they play a game where someone other Cruz or Trump end up as the nominee. But they are called the stupid party for a reason.

To be so blind to the anger against the rinos this year and not lose gracefully is the dumbest thing that lot could ever do.

44 posted on 02/18/2016 3:48:50 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: livius

Who is this everybody who would be happy with Cruz? The polls say different.


45 posted on 02/18/2016 3:54:17 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: j.argese

“The only think Cruz has in common with conservatism is the letter “C”.”

American Conservative Union....Cruz...100% rating
Heritage Action for America....Cruz...100% rating


46 posted on 02/18/2016 3:54:17 PM PST by JakeSladder
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To: JakeSladder

He’s a puppet. You don’t want to see the strings, good for you.


47 posted on 02/18/2016 4:01:50 PM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: Luircin

Okay so what happens when reality hits and he finds out that the wall has to be funded and that gets tied up for years before they actually build “the wall”. In the meantime what are his specific plans for the rest of our many issues? We can’t count on “the wall” to solve them.


48 posted on 02/18/2016 4:14:54 PM PST by katieetx828
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To: katieetx828

You are a Cruz supporter so you have only paid attention to your candidates positions on any of the issues. If you want to know what Trumps positions are on the issues watch his rallies, he speaks in interviews all the time listen to him!!! The point is you folks don’t listen to him because you don’t like him and I really DON’T care wether you like him or not!! What I am sick of is your side calling Trump supporters fools, ignorant, uneducated, non conservative, I do NOT give a damn who you folks vote for, but you really need to stick a sock in it when it comes to Trump supporters it is very unbecoming of you and your candidate!!!


49 posted on 02/18/2016 4:32:44 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: j.argese

What about the Supreme Court vacancy?

Isn’t this an awfully important decision to make for someone who doesn’t seem to be that knowledgeable about the Constitution?

If he gets it wrong, we’re screwed forever...

And that’s worth the gamble?


50 posted on 02/18/2016 5:09:43 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: katieetx828

“Can someone please outline his specific plans on any one topic other than building a wall?”

They can’t, and they don’t care. As long as he sticks it to the establishment, and he builds that damn wall, that’s all that matters.

Never mind the trivial fact that if we get one more liberal justice on the Supreme Court our nation is down the toilet.


51 posted on 02/18/2016 5:14:17 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: livius

“Weakness at the top of the party was the only thing that let Trump get away with this.”

Weakness? Try total capitulation to President Buckwheat. The GOPe traitors gave Buckwheat everything he wanted in the last budget. Since 2010, when Republicans took over the House, these cowards didn’t even have the guts to defund a single one of Buckwheat’s programs.

No, it’s much more than weakness; it was a complete sellout of the American people and their values to a punk infesting our White House. I have no problem in labeling so-called Republicans as seditionists.

This treachery, I believe, more than anything else, caused the rise of Trump. And if Trump or Cruz are willing to stomp congressional nuts into the concrete, I’ll cheer them on.


52 posted on 02/18/2016 5:16:11 PM PST by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Luircin

“The wall, in and of itself, is enough.”

No it’s not. Not by a long shot.

Getting a conservative, strict constitutionalist on the Supreme Court is vital for our existence as a nation.

Our rights and our liberties hang in the balance with that one decision...


53 posted on 02/18/2016 5:16:51 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: j.argese

“C” stands for cookie, that’s good enough for me.


54 posted on 02/18/2016 5:18:17 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: JakeSladder

Their blind to what true conservatism really is.

On the other hand, most of the people who support Trump, really don’t care about conservatism any more.


55 posted on 02/18/2016 5:22:02 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: sergeantdave

The GOP weakness came long before Buckwheat (who’s not even dark) got elected.

That was the reason everybody on the liberal side, such as Colin Powell, abandoned W once the war became unpopular, thanks to Code Pink and a host of other media idiots. They were weak and Bush actually looked strong in those days, but he simply let the media get to him and was like a small smudge of ash by the time he left office.

Trump will knuckle under immediately because Trump is all about Trump and wants to be considered Top Dog even if that means giving away the store - since he has no identifiable principles.

Cruz would be a lot better and I’d vote for him. But it’s very hard for him to work with people and, like it or not, you do have to be able to build coalitions and get some support.

I don’t know what we’re going to do. Trump has none of the GOP principles, even though he’s obviously trying to hastily brush up on them, but he’s the direct result of the cowardice of the RNC. He’s not a Republican in any way and they could have stopped this...if they had had those two round things.

But they don’t and now they’re stuck with a lunatic.


56 posted on 02/18/2016 5:41:23 PM PST by livius
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To: Impy; livius; campaignPete R-CT
It's interesting, Romney flip-flopped on all his positions to change from a squishy centrist Republican to Mr. Conservative in order to win the GOP nomination, and he got crucified for it on here. Trump has flip-flopped on all his positions to an even more extreme change to go from a pro-Clinton/Obama/Pelosi left-leaning independent to a fiery Pat Buchanan-style American First Tea Party Patriot, and his supporters here have orgasms over his newly embraced policies because he promises them a YUUUUUUUUUUUGE WALL.

Being from Illinois, I'd hold my nose for Trump over Hillary in the unlikely scenario that they were in a dead heat in my state. But I doubt the Trump supporter fantasy of Trump getting all the "Reagan Democrats" to come back from the dead to vote for him and winning an electoral landslide including RAT infested states like New York is going to occur.

57 posted on 02/18/2016 5:52:49 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: livius

“Cruz would be a lot better and I’d vote for him. But it’s very hard for him to work with people and, like it or not, you do have to be able to build coalitions and get some support.”

Never underestimate his ability to take his principled positions to the American people to put pressure on the RINOs.

They will fold like a cheap suitcase if put to that kind of challenged pressure, because they care more about their own skins, and they want to keep their power.

If Cruz becomes President, they won’t have any more excuses for finally acting on the conservative values they told their voters they were all about.


58 posted on 02/18/2016 5:58:23 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: BillyBoy

“It’s interesting, Romney flip-flopped on all his positions to change from a squishy centrist Republican to Mr. Conservative in order to win the GOP nomination, and he got crucified for it on here.”

Yes. I noticed the very same thing.

And all freepers who said they were voting for him, rather than succumb to the Marxist Messiah, were crucified, too. And how did that work out???

My guess is the very same ones who did the crucifying are now supporting Trump.


59 posted on 02/18/2016 6:00:34 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: diamond6

Nope.

Sorry, but no. It’s very important, yes. But fixing the border is VITAL. Otherwise we don’t only lose in the courts, but we also lose electorally. And not just at some things; at EVERYTHING.


60 posted on 02/18/2016 6:03:07 PM PST by Luircin (The difference between lesser evil and greater good is who gets schlonged in the end.)
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