Donald Trump’s Emotional TV Ad Slams Illegal Immigration

breitbart.com ^ | February 12

[Helicondelta]

Donald Trump has rolled out a hard-hitting and emotional TV ad in South Carolina that shows how African-Americans are suffering from illegal immigration.

[Solson]

By the way, Cruz work at that law firm, was ALL tied to government and politics. It wasn't corporate law, wasn't bankruptcy law, wasn't any other law but Constitutional law -i.e. - government and politics.

Why can't you just admit Ted Cruz has little experience in the private sector working in any commercial business enterprise?

[nclaurel]

Seeds sown through actions and how we live are far different than the chest thumping that mimics the Pharisees. But actions should match the good not deception. A life lived well is seen by all.

[nathanbedford]

Well consider whether as a voter you support someone who bribed politicians to get on the inside.

[Solson]

He didn't bribe a single person and you know it.

Politicians, including Ted Cruz are influenced heavily by major donors. Those donors can typically get to the front of the line of attention and push, or lobby the very people they supported financially. With some aspect of transparency, it's very easy to see who has the biggest influences on politicians by looking at their donors.

As someone in business, Trump played the game...like virtually ALL others. There are no bribes. There are donations. The very same donations and sweetheart loans that Ted Cruz has and is accepting as part of his long career inside the beltway.

You apparently fail to see the difference between the owner and the owned. Trump is an owner. Cruz is owned.

[nathanbedford]

As someone in business, Trump played the game...like virtually ALL others. There are no bribes. There are donations. The very same donations and sweetheart loans that Ted Cruz has and is accepting as part of his long career inside the beltway.

You apparently fail to see the difference between the owner and the owned. Trump is an owner. Cruz is owned.

Do you two not see that Donald Trump is the ultimate insider. He bought his way into the game as a businessman so that he could manipulate the system to his selfish advantage. You excuse Trump in this by saying that all Trump did was play the game like everybody else. Even like Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz accepted loans which he must pay back, Donald Trump accepted loans many of which he bankrupted and Donald Trump gave contributions which is an entirely different matter.

But the idea that Donald Trump will change his motus operandi when he takes office just exploded in Iowa. It was Trump who supported big government crony capitalism to get elected, worse, Trump abdicates expanding biofuel subsidies. Ted Cruz, the alleged insider, to his credit defied the heretofore powerful biofuels special interest, a substantial voting bloc in Iowa, and stood for limited government and capitalism.

That is why I say that those who back Donald Trump believing against all evidence that he will bring reforms to the system which we all despise are fools. Donald Trump will play the same game from the different side of the table. It is Ted Cruz who stood up for capitalism in the Senate and in Iowa. All we have seen from Donald Trump in his business career and in Iowa is crony capitalism and big government. Donald Trump has shown himself in Iowa to be as opportunistic a politician as any who has sought special interest votes.

Only a fool will bet the nation that between the time of his election and it his walking into the Oval Office he will experience an epiphany.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

“have you heard Trump even mention the Constitution? Smaller government?”

More talk. What has your candidate DONE? Besides blow hot air and raise money on whatever issue gets the rubes to donate. Yes, yes, he’s all for this and for that, and he’ll get around to doing something about it “right after this election”. Like all Republicans since Reagan left office.

You guys never DO anything. Nothing. You have the house and the senate, and you can’t even defund Planned Parenthood. You’ve got smoking guns laying all around on Benghazi and you won’t do anything but have hearings. Why? Because if you actually did SOLVE anything, you couldn’t raise money on the issue.

Cruz has done NOTHING. Like I stated on an earlier thread, I will take a guy who has run a successful Jiffy Lube for a couple of years over a career politician any day of the week, and we can all agree that Trump is more than qualified to run a Jiffy Lube. At least the guy running the Jiffy Lube is accountable for a bottom line, and has to make real decissions. A politician? Nope, just promises and big talk.

Tell me again... what has CRUZ done to save the constitution and reduce the size of government? Help me out here, it’s not like he’s new to government, he’s been at this a while, so what is his track record of accomplishment? Not his lofty ideals, what are his accomplishments? Not worked towards this bill or that bill, what did he get passed? Oh, he couldn’t get people to go along with him? That’s the rub isn’t it? Your people like King all have great ideas, it’s just that when it comes voting time, they only bring up the vote when they are SURE whatever proposal they have WON’T pass.

As to a smaller government, being that 25% of all government employees surveyed have promised to quit if Trump is elected, that’s a good start! (gosh that brings a tingle up my leg!)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-federal-workers_us_56afbd6be4b0b8d7c2302d4d

But hey, you keep supporting idiots who do nothing. People may not like Obama, I don’t like Obama, but dems do get stuff done, they get it done even WHILE you republicans own the house and the senate. How does that work?

It works because the Republicans have designed it to work that way. They can raise infinite money from rubes like you if the issues don’t go away. The money will dry up fast if they were actually solved.

It’s a fixed fight, and your team has been paid off to lose.
Republicans are palookas who are going to take a fall for a few bucks, but at least it gets them another fight.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

Thanks, that is quite a list. I kind of had some of that in my head, but once it’s on paper, it is quite an impressive resume of garbage.

[tacticalogic]

Republicans are palookas who are going to take a fall for a few bucks

In case you hadn't noticed, Trump is a Republican. If he's all you say he is, he'd be running as an independent and still winning.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

” Abraham Lincoln was either a lawyer or in politics all of his adult life. He represented the biggest most important businesses of the age, the railroads.

Herbert Hoover, one of our most unsuccessful of presidents, was one of our most successful businessman.

This is an absurd line of attack against Ted Cruz.”

Most lawyers I know are slime, but indeed there is an EXCEPTION to every rule.

I’m just not willing to roll the dice on another Ivy League constitutional scholar/lawyer so quickly. The taste of sh*t is still in my mouth from our current “Harvard Constitutional Scholar Lawyer who was president of the Harvard Law Review”, I’m sorry, I will not pull the lever for your man.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice..

Oh oh, but this time, see this Harvard Constitutional Scholar Lawyer from the Harvard Law Review is DIFFERENT! And I won’t pull the football away when you try and kick it Charlie Brown, I promise.

[jpsb]

You have not refuted a single point of mine. Lot’s of word no substance, typical of nathanbedford.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

“Well consider whether as a voter you support someone who bribed politicians to get on the inside.”

Let me explain this to you, I don’t think you will understand, but I will try:

I live in Chicago, I own a business in Chicago. I do contract plumbing work. That means, I install sprinklers in buildings, I do water lines on the street and up to buildings, I do gas lines up and down the roads, and up to your commercial building, and all sorts of smaller projects.

Every year, I have to give to every politician (D or R) in the 50 towns around me that I intend to do business with. Every single one. Not only that, I have to give to those running for office as well. It ranges from $500 to $2,500. I also have to give to the Chamber of Commerce for most towns. In addition to that, I am *asked* to support whatever pet social cause they have, that can be anything, but is usually United Way, but I also have to give to Operation Push, The Daley Initiative and Rahm’s Chicago, just to name a few).

Now, this does not even mention my unions. I have IBEW, Pipefitters, Plumbers, Heavy Equipment Operators, Welding and Iron, and of course my favoritely named; Machinists and Aerospace Workers...

Every one of those unions has to be greased as well.

Greasing those entities means that my guys can pull permits in the municipality without a hassle, it means I can double park my equipment if need be, it means my guys don’t get hassled by the fire department or get the run around from the water department over and over again, it means I get the union workers that are supposed to show up for a job, it means that my inspections go smooth, they aren’t jacked around which is important when you need a gas-line sign off and you have 3 concrete trucks waiting to pour over your work, it means that those same concrete trucks aren’t getting ticketed for sitting idle, it means that there isn’t a strike for something I had nothing to do with, but maybe the building owner or developer had, it means I don’t get the bottom of the barrel idiots from the union hall on a daily basis, I get pretty good workers (my pipefitters come from union hall, ibew pay their own way, the others are a mix).

The list of graff goes on and on, and you may not like it, I know I don’t like it, but it’s the cost of doing business in my field, and I’m just a contractor, I’m not the developer like Trump is, so he’s going to get the shakedown a lot harder than I am, though from different angles. I am expected by the people I work for, to make sure my jobs run smooth. They don’t want to hear about my trucks getting ticketed, they don’t want to hear that I got 3 laborers from the hall who never showed up to work. They don’t want to hear that the inspector had to return three times. They want the job done and on time. Period.

This is one reason I am sick of politics, because every politician is the same. I don’t care if they are a D or and R around here. And they ALL promise change, but within a year or so, it is back to business as usual.

We “donate” to so many campaigns and funds and initiatives that it is handled by my 2 accounts payaple people. It is just a line item expense, a tax, or whatever. We consider it the same as buying welding rods for a job, the price is fixed into the estimate, it just is what it is.

A bribe? Oh no, the courts would disagree with you on that.. see.. it’s a “donation”. Funny thing is, those that “donate” get better treatment than those that don’t.

And if you think Texas works any different than Illinois, well it might to some extent, but with friends in my field all over (especially pipefitters who I know who have done work in the oil industry), let me tell you that it’s not all that much different. You just don’t see it, but it exists in one form or another. I promise you that.

AND this is ANOTHER reason I like Trump, because if anyone is going to change this sort of system, it is the guy with an axe to grind, and I guarantee you that Trump has been shaken down and forced to “donate” to so many people, he has a naughty list a mile long he’s just waiting to rectify.
I know if I were him, at my stage of life (I think we are similar age) with his resources, I would be getting my digs in on these corrupt bastards before I kicked off.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

“he’d be running as an independent and still winning”

what was the last independent that won the white house?

[AuntB]

““Well consider whether as a voter you support someone who bribed politicians to get on the inside.””

Ok....then you just admitted that Ted Cruz takes bribes.

[nathanbedford]

The guy with an axe to grind had a chance to change the system in Iowa and chose not to

[nathanbedford]

Point by point

[tacticalogic]

what was the last independent that won the white house?

Why does that matter? Will the answer somehow not make Donald Trump a Republican?

And not just a Republican, but a RINO. In all of his speeches, have you ever heard him speak of the republic?

[LucyT]

From # 14:

The issue I see with many Cruz people is they feel that they can judge how another person displays love of God. Two of the finest ministers I have known in my 60+ years were quiet , respectful, nonjudgmental as that belongs to God to judge. They lived their faith not broadcast it and anyone who knew them realized that their lives were a testament to God. They lived it, not quoted scripture.

I am not judging those who want to be more verbal.

I am saying no man has the right to tell another how to manifest their relationship with God. It is between them and God. - I believe that while Trump doesn't quote Bible verse in speeches, he will protect others rights to do so.

From # 16:

.......at the end the ad, the father says, I believe Donald Trump loves America....That/s what I don't get from Cruz or his people.

Excellent point.

*I don*t like Cruz but I don't know why,* is a frequent FR post.

Cruz seems to be in it to prove something to himself.....maybe its a Canadian-latino/s lack of self-esteem. Who knows? But the presidency is definitely not the place to achieve your human potential.

OTOH, Donald/s soaring acclamation.... WE will make America great Again......speaks to the character of the candidate.

[odawg]

“Ted Cruz accepted loans which he must pay back”

Ted Cruz “accepted” (most of us “take out”) loans that were paid back by campaign contributions. He failed to report them, and told the voters he was liquidating his assets. Quite a different concept than taking out loans.

Ted Cruz does accept huge sums of money from people he is supposed to be opposed to, such as open homosexuals and the open borders crowd.

Do you really think that these large sum donors are giving away their money out of the goodness and generosity of their hearts?

“Ted Cruz, the alleged insider, to his credit defied the heretofore powerful biofuels special interest, a substantial voting bloc in Iowa, and stood for limited government and capitalism.”

Focus on “alleged insider”:

Ted Cruz helped Paul Ryan roll out TPA, an Obama/globalist agenda item. He campaigned for it, lied about it in reference to Sessions warnings about it usurping Congressional authority over immigration (you can google that) and voted for it. He later voted against it when his vote did not matter. Afterward, he claimed to Mark Levin that he did not know the immigration override was in the bill he voted on initially, by way of explaining why he voted against it the second time.

The Corker bill - prized Obama agenda initiative: Cruz was foursquare against the bill, but when it came time to vote, he voted for the bill. The bill was actually a treaty since it dealt with foreign countries, and it taunted the Constitutional treaty protection clause by requiring a two-thirds vote to DEFEAT the bill, a nice touch, and Mr. Constitution never said a word about the taunt. Now, he says that will be the first thing he takes aim at if elected. Rush Limbaugh said the reason why the bill passed is because Republican donors stand to make a killing on rebuilding Iran’s infrastructure. And, I will add, the donor’s know who they can count on.

Rubio, by the way, said that Obama intentional harms the United States. Rubio supports with votes Obama’s efforts all the way. Cruz does also, maybe to a lesser extent.

“But the idea that Donald Trump will change his motus operandi when he takes office just exploded in Iowa. It was Trump who supported big government crony capitalism to get elected...”

If you were to check with Ben Carson, he would have another take on what was explosive in Iowa.

When I was a kid, they use to call government subsidies pork barrel. It is still rampart all over the nation on every level of government and Cruz wants to be the big man pointing it out only in Iowa and phasing it out, over five years, of course.

[Bubba Gump Shrimp]

“And not just a Republican, but a RINO. In all of his speeches, have you ever heard him speak of the republic?”

Talk is cheap. Talk is what politicians do. Talk is how politicians raise money.

What tangable result has any of your people ever won?

Besides winning elections and fund raising that is.

What measurable accounting do they have to help the “republic”

If Trump WAS a true republican, I would not vote for him.

What is a RINO by the way? Republican in name only? Yes, I would say that is he. Since Bush is a true Republican, and Rubio is a true Republican, I’d be happy to call Trump a Rino.

I’m not really that much into labels though, because once you accept a label, you allow others to define you.

And... I have not listened to “all of his speeches”, I don’t have the time to nitpick that way.

The few speeches I’ve heard, the many interviews I’ve heard, I like him. The few speeches, the debates, the campaign tactics, the swinging the bible around of Cruz, I don’t like him. Plain and simple.

I can meet a person and tell you in a few minutes if I like that person or not. I might be right, I might be wrong, maybe he’s a fine guy, I just don’t like him.

You don’t like Trump, that’s cool. I don’t like Cruz, and I’m in your playground now, I’m not a republican, I’m not a conservative, so this is your forum, and what it is that you are getting at is foreign to me. I don’t speak republican.