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If Trump doesn't win will you vote for Cruz? If Cruz doesn't win will you vote for Trump?

Posted on 01/19/2016 4:58:22 PM PST by free_life

I hope this stays in extended news so it gets seen by many FReepers, it would good for us all to know where we are headed.


TOPICS: US: New York; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2016election; dominionist; donaldtrump; election2016; newyork; tedcruz; texas; trump; vanity
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To: free_life

If trump or cruz get the nomination, I’ll put a yard sign up for either. If it’s Jeb, no. I will just not even vote. I couldn’t have that disaster in the making on my conscience.


401 posted on 01/20/2016 4:51:50 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: bert
The elements of change are falling in place. The purity you desire will never be that total

I do not demand purity. I'd simply like to not get tabbed in the back anymore. I'd like to have people working to oppose the Left. I'd like to see some respect given to limited-government principles as espoused by the Constitution that they swear to uphold. It's not that tough, and the GOP works harder at attacking those people than they do attacking the Left. For that, they need to be eliminated, permanently.

402 posted on 01/20/2016 4:58:16 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

and how exactly are you going to get people to do what you want if you never vote. What you want is a purist , someone who agrees with you on everything and it has to be your way or no way.

I agree with you that there are many in the GOP who won’t do sod all against the left, but we have two decent candidates who are not establishment.
For the record I want Cruz, but will vote for Trump.

Every official states they will do something on our side and none ever do, but the left sure gets their way and their agenda passed.


403 posted on 01/20/2016 5:04:24 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sine_Pari

Nothing infuriates me more than “principled” non-participation. The enemy of my enemy is a friend indeed when in need.
Those of you who did not vote against the Usurper for what ever reason, regardless of how valid, brought this Republic to the edge of extinction.
You bastards.
Had we not worked with Russia, most of the world would be speaking German.
You noble and principled jerks gave all of us:
Four more years of “fundamental change”.
Four more years of race baiting antics.
Four more years of Arab Spring.
You gift wrapped Iran a nuclear program.
You created Europe-istan, need I go on?
I do not recall any stories of Paul Tibbets being concerned if the Atomic Bomb was a conservative or not.
We are truly at that point:
Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.
This is a battle to restore a constitutional government. We will need a thousand Ted Cruz(s) to accomplish this.
But first, we need to take down the Axis of Evil:
-The Socialists
-The New World Order
- and the Islamic Forces that they employ.

We must use the Trump bomb, it is an ugly weapon, but the deployment is not optional.

We must use it now.

There will be collateral damage, but such is the price of Liberty.

We will have to pick up the pieces in the years that follow.
If you do not vote, then you have abandoned us at our most dire time of need and help. If you don’t vote then STFU and leave.


404 posted on 01/20/2016 5:11:57 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: RavenLooneyToon

It will most likely be Trump, and yes I will be voting for him.

If it’s Cruz, then I will vote for Cruz.

Anyone else.... No way.


405 posted on 01/20/2016 5:15:31 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: RavenLooneyToon
And if it is neither Trump nor Cruz, would you vote for Rubio or whomever else wins the nomination? And if not, do you nevertheless expect the 40-50% of Republicans who currently support neither Trump nor Cruz to vote for them anyway in the general election?

Just trying to figure out how far your principled stance against principled non-participation extends. And whether you think the obligation to rally around the party should be reciprocal.

406 posted on 01/20/2016 5:20:29 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: sitetest
I will not vote for trump under any circumstances.

That's what the evangelicals said about Mitt Romney. And they handed us four more years of -0-. How'd that work out?

You might not have liked Mitt Romney, but you have to admit for the good of the country, a dead cat would have been better than 0bama.

Arguably the worst President in the history of this nation. A national embarrassment, why? "I won't vote for a Mormon.. wahhh wahhh waaaahh!"

Now the evangelicals want the Mormons to vote for Ted Cruz... hmmmm....

What goes around comes around...
407 posted on 01/20/2016 5:32:51 AM PST by StormPrepper
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

How’s this for an example of my principled stance on participating...
In the booth, if I were to see Hitler VS. Clinton, I would have to say to myself...which would support and protect their nation? Which would do everything possible to stop an invasion? Which would not sell out?

Certainly, there would be a check mark.
The check mark would not go to Clinton.

I do not take this lightly. I have children, I have grand children. It will never be said that I did not try to preserve the Republic to advantage them. It will never be said that I did nothing to stop the degradation of Liberty.

Even if that means..Jib, er, Jab, ummm... that Bush fellow.


408 posted on 01/20/2016 5:33:49 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: amnestynone
I will vote for Cruz or Trump. If Bush is nominated I will not vote for him.

Same for me.

409 posted on 01/20/2016 5:34:53 AM PST by corlorde
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To: RavenLooneyToon
Fair enough - I agree with you on this. Jeb makes my skin crawl, but....

What amuses/amazes me are those folks who state that they won't vote for anyone but Cruz or Trump, but expect those who support other candidates to support Cruz or Trump if they're the nominee.

For me, the Supreme Court is why I'll vote for whomever the eventual GOP nominee is, even if they otherwise make my skin crawl.

410 posted on 01/20/2016 5:41:07 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“Why do you continually misspell Cruz in your posts?”

Because I know some people that have the name Cruse and that’s how they spell it.

I suppose it’s a regional thing like Smith or Smyth.


411 posted on 01/20/2016 5:53:59 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: StormPrepper

I voted for Romney. That didn’t turn out so well. Why? Afterall, I didn’t vote for him in my primary. But when we nominate liberals, we tend to lose. Why? In part, because we’re not offering much of a choice. I will vote for Sen. Cruz in my state’s primary, and if he loses, and the party nominates trump because they think he can win, then I’m not sure which his worse, trump winning or trump losing the general election. I will abandon the Republican Party for the first in over 30 years, and I will vote for a more conservative third oarty.

Maybe if enough of us do that, Republicans will nominate an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE.


412 posted on 01/20/2016 5:55:38 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: puppypusher

Well, at least you’re for the right guy. Rock on.


413 posted on 01/20/2016 5:59:31 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are. Go Ted.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

They must be stopped.
The quicker the better.
However,if it takes three or four election cycles, that will work also.
Right now, how many back room deals have been put in place with Clinton based on her coronation?
Their plans have been put in place. Plans that are decades old. Putting anyone else in office can put those plans on hold, maybe for a few months, maybe for years or decades. Any impedance will help.
A new party in office, no matter who it is, will slow them down as people and plans are replaced. It takes time to implement new management in such a leviathan of an entity.
That is why all must vote.


414 posted on 01/20/2016 6:22:25 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: sitetest
Maybe if enough of us do that, Republicans will nominate an ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE.

It doesn't work like that.

You're not punishing a child. It will be seen, again, as a national trend toward all thing democrat.

Evangelical Christians as a group have almost single handedly put the constitution and our whole way of life on the chopping block.

If Republicans lose the WH in 2016 we can almost certainly look at the loss of Mitt Romney as the death stroke.

By that I mean look who we're running against. HRC, who is corrupt and incompetent and IMO, evil. And Bernie Sanders...an avowed socialist. BHO's victories have set the tone in this country to where an avowed socialist can be the front runner of a Presidential election.

And you're suggesting we do it again? Put BS into the White House? A socialist? Really?

I want the Republican to win so that the Democrat agenda takes a hard hit. I want the homo agenda to take a big hit. I want socialism to LOSE big!

I do not want Ted Cruz to be the candidate because he's an Evangelical. And I don't think he's got what it takes to sit at the table with Putin.

I have the hardest choice in this election. More so than you. If Cruz gets the nomination, I have to choose between someone that hates me personally (through associations) and someone that wants to take away my way of life. Well, both would take away my way of life they could get away with it.

So where's the win for me?
415 posted on 01/20/2016 6:46:29 AM PST by StormPrepper
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To: free_life

I’ll vote for the GOP nominee, it’s ABC for me.


416 posted on 01/20/2016 6:48:31 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: free_life

I would support strongly either Cruz or Trump. The only ones I would not vote for are Marco Rubio the White Obama and Jeb Bush.


417 posted on 01/20/2016 6:55:23 AM PST by Dante3
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To: All

Cruz for me and my wife.
If it’s Trump - probably for me but I would never be able to convince my wife. Trump reminds her of President Dwayne Elizando Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho from the movie Idiocracy.


418 posted on 01/20/2016 7:06:29 AM PST by toddly
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To: StormPrepper; Norm Lenhart

I’m not an evangelical Christian. I know a bunch. I like ‘em. I feel fairly comfortable with them. But I have a few disagreements with them, so please stop lumping me in with them.

I’m tired of the folks “running as conservatives.” Why not nominate an actual conservative?

You’re calculus is wrong. You appear to blame our electoral losses on conservative voters who weren’t excited in large numbers to vote for liberals. We might not do so well until we bring conservatives back into the picture by nominating a conservative.

Moral of the story: don’t nominate an ultra liberal masquerading as a conservative.

I have no problem with President Cruz going against Putin. He’ll be tough as nails and won’t give away the store.

With whacky trump, I don’t know whether he’ll start a nuclear war or give away the store. I guess it depends on which side of the bed on which he gets up.

Kinda like the 45% tariffs he’s not going to impose. Up until he imposes them.

Or the tens of billions (hundreds of billions?) of dollars we’re going to spend forcibly deporting every illegal, only to spend some tens of billions of dollars (I hope) to “expedite” their legal re-entry. So we get around 10,000,000 new citizens that we never anticipated having.

Or his pro-life views that he loudly touts. Until asked if he really means it, and he answers, “It depends when.”


419 posted on 01/20/2016 7:21:08 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Socon-Econ
You’d do well to think about Clinton or Sanders after election day.

This is worth repeating - for all those (and I've been counting) who say they won't vote Trump. We've been through this so many times - those who won't vote Trump will be putting Hillary or Sanders in. Is that what you want AGAIN! Hillary is more Obama, Is that what you want?

420 posted on 01/20/2016 7:33:23 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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