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Are the polls overstating Trump's support?
The Washington Examiner ^ | 12/1/2015 | David M. Drucker

Posted on 12/01/2015 12:51:28 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Donald Trump's lead in public opinion polling could have a soft underbelly, leaving him more vulnerable than the numbers might suggest.

The New York real estate mogul and reality television star paces the field of Republican presidential candidates nationally, garnering an average of 35.1 in the Huffington Post polling tracker. Rounding out the top four candidates are retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson, with 13.9 percent and Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas, with 12.6 percent and 11.4 percent, respectively.

But use the site's custom filter to remove surveys conducted via the Internet, Interactive Voice Response, a combination of IVR and online and through automated telephone interviews, and the data looks significantly different. Using only polls conducted via interviews with live telephone operators, Trump's still commanding position in the national GOP average drops to 27.2 percent; Carson's number rises to 20.2 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; demagogicparty; election2016; elections; mediabias; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; tedcruz; texas; trump; trumpwasright; understatingsupport
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To: Amendment10

Jeb will win, he is able to have 12 people in his meeting.


21 posted on 12/01/2015 1:23:01 PM PST by jennychase
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
EXACTLY !

Just look at the numbers of people who turn out for Trump rallies!

22 posted on 12/01/2015 1:23:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
I'd love to see a poll about how Trump is doing with veterans, military, and those with a close association to them. It would be fun to see how Trump will do with the female vote compared to the 'pub wannabees. Then how about a survey about how Trump is doing with those age 60 and over, who remember the promise of the country we grew up in?

General surveys do not "catch" specific groups in which a candidate will do far better (or worse) than would happen with the generic voter.

23 posted on 12/01/2015 1:27:17 PM PST by grania
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To: nopardons

It is understated and most of the polls are only polling republican voters. There are yuuuuge numbers of democrats that will cross over for Trump!


24 posted on 12/01/2015 1:28:29 PM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever! Trump is the only hope.)
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To: bigtoona

Indies too and also those who either just changed their party affiliation, or just registered.


25 posted on 12/01/2015 1:30:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: onyx

no offense but I reported your use of excrement synonym. Love you.
Don’t agree with you. You can’t say he is gaining and so what if he gets 4000 in Sarasota? Palin used to pull them in too.
Mr. Cruz will take him out soon.


26 posted on 12/01/2015 1:30:36 PM PST by libbylu (Cruz or lose)
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To: grania

True, I bet that those over 60 are much more inclined to vote for Trump, because, like him, they actually do remember how GREAT America used to be.


27 posted on 12/01/2015 1:32:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

It seems more likely that people more freely admit their support for Trump with an autommated system.

Live interviewers presumably get an understatement of such rebel sentiment.


28 posted on 12/01/2015 1:33:18 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Much more likely that the polls are understating Trump’s support.


29 posted on 12/01/2015 1:39:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

“Donald Trump’s lead in public opinion polling could have a soft underbelly, leaving him more vulnerable than the numbers might suggest.”

Or not. Especially when you consider that rank speculation doesn’t have quite the predictive value of the current set of polls, not matter how inaccurate they might be.


30 posted on 12/01/2015 1:56:22 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TBP
Who know how well the sample reflects

That really is the problem. Until pollsters figure out a consistent method of accurately polling the population under present conditions, they're a guess requiring a large grain of salt.

31 posted on 12/01/2015 2:01:00 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: 9YearLurker

You are so right!

Unlike the average poster here, the average citizen in this country will offer the answer that leads to the path of least resistance.

Just look at how many times the average worker bites his/her tongue at work because they need their job.

How many times a parent will shut up and fume so their kids won’t be singled out for special attention, not the good kind, at school.

It has become second nature for too many people to hide their true feelings and especially political beliefs.
Easier to go along to get along.
Very sad.


32 posted on 12/01/2015 2:04:35 PM PST by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I’ll take UNDERSTATING for $200, Captain :)


33 posted on 12/01/2015 2:06:04 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Parley Baer

People that work show up at Trump rallies during the week. That is it’s own message.


34 posted on 12/01/2015 2:07:21 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Nothing else has worked, so I suppose the MSM has to give this one a try.


35 posted on 12/01/2015 2:12:40 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Does it look like any of the polling agencies favor Trump for president? I don’t think so. Not CNN, not Fox news, not NBC, not WSJ, not PPP, etc.

If anything the polling sample is usually less than 1000, so they can skew the poll easily. When Drudge & Time run a post-debate poll, there are 500,000+ respondents! Those are much more reliable polls. There are no push-pull qustions in Drudge polls. It is simply picking the winner.


36 posted on 12/01/2015 2:44:00 PM PST by entropy12
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The people at Trump’s rallies are just going there to make him feel good. They don’t really support him.


37 posted on 12/01/2015 2:45:29 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Most of Trumps supporters are extremely pissed of at govt and media.

I don’t picture many of them cooperating with pollsters and survey takers.


38 posted on 12/01/2015 2:47:21 PM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: libbylu
What did I do, forget to use ! in place of I? LOL & ooops!

Try THIS FOR A DISGUSTING POST!
39 posted on 12/01/2015 2:52:44 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE MAKE YOUR DONATION NOW - GO MONTHLY IF YOU POSSIBLY & RELIABLY CAN!)
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To: SamAdams76

It will be interesting to see how Waterville Valley goes tonight - there’s a statewide ice warning, and it’s kind of remote.


40 posted on 12/01/2015 3:06:38 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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