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Cruz refuses to take legal status off table
WND ^ | 11/30/2015

Posted on 11/30/2015 10:42:15 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Ted Cruz on Sunday refused to address how he would handle the millions of undocumented immigrants already living in the country, despite hammering Marco Rubio this weekend for previously supporting a path to citizenship. Cruz refused to take off the table his own support of a potential path to legal status despite his cries against "amnesty."

"Let's demonstrate we can stop illegal immigration, we can protect our national security interests, we can protect our law enforcement interests," Cruz said after a campaign stop in Newton, Iowa. "Then once that's done, we can have a conversation at that point about whatever people remain here illegally."

Cruz has insisted the border must be secured before addressing proposals of how to deal with the millions of undocumented immigrants still living in the United States.

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It is very hard to know what “Cruz’s position is” since he changes his positions often.


141 posted on 11/30/2015 1:24:50 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: editor-surveyor

Whoever is nominated and elected, Trump or Cruz, must honor the Constitution and rule of law, otherwise we will have another Obama.

As head of the Executive branch of government, the illegals have to go and the power given the Executive branch must used to see that the existing laws are followed. And those who enter our country illegally and defy our laws know they will be found and deported.

Yes, some will be allowed to apply and return within the existing immigration laws. But it will be limited and controlled by the laws which govern us.

I trust Cruz has the leadership, knowledge, and experience to follow the rule of law and re-establish the Republic which our founding fathers gave us.


142 posted on 11/30/2015 1:48:59 PM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: gwgn02

Cruz is wrong in claiming that it is okay or even good for a presidential candidate not to tell voters his position on an issue that is important to them.

Shame on him.


143 posted on 11/30/2015 1:54:21 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: gwgn02

Cruz is wrong in claiming that it is okay or even good for a presidential candidate not to tell voters his position on an issue that is important to them.

Shame on him.


144 posted on 11/30/2015 1:54:21 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: gwgn02

Cruz is wrong in claiming that it is okay or even good for a presidential candidate not to tell voters his position on an issue that is important to them.

Shame on him.


145 posted on 11/30/2015 1:54:22 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: jpsb

“Cruz is the stealth GOPe candidate.”

Which is why the GOPe despises him. Makes sense.

?


146 posted on 11/30/2015 2:02:37 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: 9YearLurker; jpsb; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Catsrus; LibWhacker

Cruz has made his positions on illegal immigration extremely clear:

https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan-summary/

He specifies building a wall, tripling the number of border patrol, repealing Obama’s amnesty program, enforcing deportations and returns, ending sanctuary policies, prohibiting illegal immigrants from receiving financial benefits, suspending H-1B visas, halting *legal* immigration, ending birthright citizenship, and so on.

What in the world is there not to like?? His policies are specific, and bold.


147 posted on 11/30/2015 2:10:29 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Theo

No, when in the past he has addressed illegal immigrants here now he has talked about legalization. Now that he’s running for president he neither admits nor denies that he will legalize them. Yet, he rails against amnesty (and legalization is amnesty). It’s pretty easy to surmise that Cruz doesn’t tell GOP primary voters what he’ll do with them because he’ll legalize them and he knows that’s not what the conservative voting base wants.

Still it is misleading and deceptive and less than forthcoming to say he’s against “amnesty”, but not say that he won’t actually give illegals legalization as a form of amnesty. Even Jeb admits what he’ll do with current illegals. Cruz owes prospective voters more.


148 posted on 11/30/2015 2:14:55 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Theo
What in the world is there not to like?? His policies are specific, and bold.

Did the Cruz campaign feed you that line directly to troll with on FR? Because, it just doesn't come off like we're talking to a human being here.

149 posted on 11/30/2015 2:21:47 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Theo

The GOPe does not despise him, and clearly the billionaire donors don’t either. Now he is disliked by his colleges in the Senate. They seems to think he uses his position there to play politics.


150 posted on 11/30/2015 2:22:10 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The details are spelled out very clearly on his website. I provided the specific link to Cruz’s plan. How is that a bad thing?


151 posted on 11/30/2015 2:31:48 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: jpsb

GW Bush said he “does not like” Ted Cruz. Cruz is the only candidate Bush has had such negative words for. The GOPe despises Cruz. And you sincerely believe the GOPe adores Cruz, above all other candidates? Really?


152 posted on 11/30/2015 2:33:19 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
If they are in the U.S. illegally, they need to first go home. Then, they should be able to apply for re-entry IF they have not broken our laws.

Indeed they should....but how you gonna get that done as long as the border is porous? Answer: you can't. Sometimes reality is just a bitch.

153 posted on 11/30/2015 2:36:17 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Carry_Okie

Okay, so here’s what you’re doing on these threads.

1: Attack every single candidate for not being good enough on illegal invaders, especially the first one who’s actually put forth a pro-American plan. You offer exactly zero alternatives; I can’t even call you an annoyed Cruz supporter because you don’t trust him either.

2: ???

3: America is saved!

What’s your game here, man?


154 posted on 11/30/2015 2:36:41 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Theo
How is that a bad thing?

Ignores virtually the entire thread and hopes we're too stupid to read what Cruz is saying himself. The "highly specific" thing is a fun, but sad joke.

155 posted on 11/30/2015 2:39:30 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Theo

Makes about as much sense as saying that Trump is a stealth media candidate when the media despises him.


156 posted on 11/30/2015 2:43:47 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Theo
That Bush bad mouthed Cruz pissed me off. Bush is an idiot, when has Bush ever said anything bad about zero? Or Hillary? I can't stand neocons.

I think Ted Cruz is not particularly liked by our globalist ruling class. His is the "bad boy" in "the club", but he is in the club. Trump on the other hand terrifies the GOPe he is a monster to them,so much so that they will back the bad boy to stop the monster.

Trump is the only candidate not owned by the billionaire GOPe donors. The only candidate free to speak his mind and tell people what he really thinks. So I like Trump, he is the only candidate I trust. Now if Cruz is the nominee and wins fair and square I'll support him in the general as long as he does not go wobbly on immigration.

157 posted on 11/30/2015 2:46:04 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

This is the part I don’t like about Ted Cruz. He just keeps slippin and slidin. If you are not willing to get rid of the illegals who are here or at least a good portion of them then you are going to do amnesty at some point. Its not that complicated. That’s why I’m voting for Trump. He is at least going to make an effort to get rid of the illegals or as many as possible.


158 posted on 11/30/2015 3:01:05 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Theo

Nobody is trashing Ted Cruz we are disagreeing with his less than forthright position. He keeps swearing he is the only candidate who always opposed amnesty but cannot get the word deportation through his lips. Its a problem.


159 posted on 11/30/2015 3:03:38 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Cruz's plan does NOT call for deportation for all illegals. Cruz is only talking about "criminal" aliens, those who have committed other crimes besides coming in illegally. That's why it's not a contradiction when Cruz tells folks that there will be a "conversation" about what to do with them later; it's perfectly obvious that his plan doesn't deal with the question.

It's slippery lawyer jargon, which is exactly what we don't want at this critical time. Such lawyerly wordsmanship allows a future loophole to have "conversations" about whether or not to deport those here illegally - even IF the southern border is secured with an impenetrable physical barrier.

It troubles me that Ted isn't speaking in Reaganesque "bold colors" on this, the most serious issue the nation faces, but chooses instead to employ the "pale pastels" of the GOP-e.

I'm sorry, but it makes me nervous.

160 posted on 11/30/2015 3:13:25 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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