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Abortion and Down Syndrome [Zot!]
New York Times ^ | 8/25/15 | Editorial Board

Posted on 08/25/2015 10:31:30 AM PDT by Bluewater2015

It is tempting to dismiss the latest anti-choice salvo from Ohio lawmakers, which would criminalize abortions based on a fetal diagnosis of Down syndrome, as a blatantly unconstitutional ploy that would never be enforced.

That would be a mistake. The bill stands a disturbingly good chance of approval this fall by the state’s Republican-controlled legislature

A similar bill passed in North Dakota in 2013 bans abortions on the grounds of fetal genetic anomalies, including Down syndrome. The law has not yet been enforced — under existing Supreme Court precedent it is hard to see how it could be — but as with so many restrictions on a woman’s right to choose, that is not the only measure of its power. In fact, a significant majority of women who receive a fetal diagnosis of Down syndrome choose to abort their pregnancy. A smaller percentage choose to carry the fetus to term. In both cases, it is a personal decision.

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To: qam1

“Why don’t the healthy babies deserve the same protection?”

Well of course they deserve life.

This is justified along the same lines as sex-selection abortion. It is discrimination to decide to abort based on handicap. If the woman doesn’t want a pregnancy, she can end it, but she can’t discriminate based on disability or sex.


21 posted on 08/26/2015 7:18:30 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Twinkie

you insult me and then quote the bible? Were you sober when you wrote your post?


22 posted on 08/27/2015 1:45:40 PM PDT by BarbM (Portuguese Dog Kenyan President)
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To: Bluewater2015; Jim Robinson; Darksheare; shibumi

Only a small percentage of abortions are due to severe fetal abnormalities, and this is the one ground for abortion that most Americans agree on. Forcing these pregnancies to come to term would place innumerable hardship on families, and the children themselves.


IBTZ.

No place for this, here. Sarah Palin would disagree with your *assessment*.


23 posted on 08/27/2015 1:56:45 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: BarbM

I am a Protestant. YOU insulted me by your comment; IF I wore my feelings on my sleeve. . but I don’t.

I would say I probably insulted my Kraut Catholic SIL & BIL. (The “Kraut” think is still a sore point with me. Daddy was shell-shocked from combat in WWII.) I’ve never mistreated Kraut SIL; but I am still a realist.

I kept my Downs baby & did the best I could in the situation.

Maybe I’m just drunk on all this “Protestant” power; in which case, that’s God’s call.


24 posted on 08/27/2015 2:14:04 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Bluewater2015; Jane Long

25 posted on 08/27/2015 3:53:28 PM PDT by shibumi ("Have you driven a Fnord lately?")
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To: Old Sarge; Semper Mark; 50mm; TheOldLady; Darksheare; Larry Lucido; humblegunner; Eaker; ...
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26 posted on 08/27/2015 3:55:31 PM PDT by shibumi ("Have you driven a Fnord lately?")
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To: BarbM
I guess the Protestants abort their Downs babies.

I wasn't aware that Sarah Palin had aborted Trig. Do you have a cite for that? Or did you just pull that comment out of your ear?

27 posted on 08/27/2015 3:58:41 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Dolly Madison: Life is short. Have an eclair!)
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To: shibumi

Viking kitties are busy today!


28 posted on 08/27/2015 3:59:08 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Dolly Madison: Life is short. Have an eclair!)
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To: Larry Lucido

They’re doing it “for the children.”


29 posted on 08/27/2015 4:00:48 PM PDT by shibumi ("Have you driven a Fnord lately?")
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To: Bluewater2015

Oh, hello.
Or would you prefer: “Jawohl, willkommen”?
Bet the term “Arbeit Macht Frei” warms your heart, right?


30 posted on 08/27/2015 4:03:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Viking kitties are busy today!

They've recruited some friends to assist...


31 posted on 08/27/2015 4:03:35 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: Bluewater2015

I disagree, have had close friends and family raise Down’s Syndrome children and they say it has brought them great joy. Is it extra work and heartache? Yes, but many of our children that have no genetic or medical issues can still bring us extra work and heartache. Children who become drug addicts, alcoholics, and/or make poor choices in life also cause extra work and heartache for their families.

There are no guarantees of perfect children, nor should there be.


32 posted on 08/27/2015 4:05:17 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: BarbM

WOW you are over the top judgemental. Funny we have friends with DS children and had one in the family until he passed away a couple years ago, not a Catholic in the bunch.


33 posted on 08/27/2015 4:07:30 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Bluewater2015

“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”

- Mother Teresa


34 posted on 08/27/2015 4:16:05 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: Bluewater2015
... and the children themselves.

And the children themselves??

This was OUR child, Maximilian Theodore, which means, "Most Excellent Gift of God".

He was born on Valentines Day in 1986. He was like a Valentine from God to us. He passed away suddenly on Oct. 6, 1988. He was one of the most loving, beautiful persons I have ever had the honor of knowing. Thinking of him I will just ask that you take your ignorance, your gall and your lies somewhere else.


35 posted on 08/27/2015 4:21:54 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: shibumi; Bluewater2015; Darksheare; COBOL2Java
Thanks for the aisle clean up....on that Bluewater spill. He/she had it comin'!!


36 posted on 08/27/2015 5:10:10 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: BarbM

I guess you don’t go to many non-Roman Catholic churches?


37 posted on 08/27/2015 5:13:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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38 posted on 08/27/2015 7:12:08 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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39 posted on 08/28/2015 4:10:02 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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To: Old Sarge

Nice proportional font on the TOP SECRET.


40 posted on 08/28/2015 4:12:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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