Posted on 08/20/2015 6:17:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
On NewsMax TVs Prime earlier this week, Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz took on the current ongoing argument about the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship, which has been raised in recent days over Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump and his immigration policy that questions the citizenship of those born in the United States from parents here illegally.
Dershowitz said although it was technically constitutional for those born here not of U.S. citizens to be considered citizens, it defied logic but was unlikely to change in the short-term.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
A few years ago I would never have questioned birth-right citizenship, even for illegals. A few years before that I would have had a very laissez faire attitude about the wide-open border.
But when you have people coming across the border, to stay, millions per year, decade after decade, you have to get real. Its way past time we get real.
In order to understand it, one needs to be an American whose ancestors lived in New York hundreds of years ago rather than a generation or three.
http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/bp445-e.htm
CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP ACT
AND CURRENT ISSUES
Prepared by:
Margaret Young
Law and Government Division
October 1997
Revised August 1998
[...]
APPENDIX A
BIRTH ON A COUNTRYS SOIL:
THE LAW IN SELECTED COUNTRIES(44)
Most people gain their citizenship at birth by means of one of two main legal systems. The first is the British common law system, under which citizenship is obtained by virtue of the place of birth jus soli regardless of the citizenship of the parents. The second is the tradition based on Roman law, which gives primacy to the citizenship of the parents jus sanguinis, regardless of where the child is born.(45)
Most people gain their citizenship at birth by means of one of two main legal systems. The first is the British common law system [after the English Civil War], under which citizenship is obtained by virtue of the place of birth jus soli regardless of the citizenship of the parents. The second is the tradition based on Roman law, which gives primacy to the citizenship of the parents jus sanguinis, regardless of where the child is born.(45)
Nice, succinct summary why the country is now FUBAR.
We have been rich long enough for significant segments of the population-- especially the business and political elites-- to have become insulated (or even rewarded by) the consequences of their bad decision making that our public life becomes more and more irrational.
Lord please let this trend towards sanity continue.
“Alan Dershowitz: Birthright Citizenship Is Bizarre”
It is. It’s like some couple breaks into your basement, lives there undetected for a time, then has a baby, and the baby is then ruled by law a member of your family.
EXC analogy !
Boy, the Founding Fathers really dropped the ball! If only they had thought about adding language covering the topic of amending the Constitution!!
Sure. Just like slavery is legal.
I like your analogy as well but it might be too generous in the sense that 'living there undetected for a time'....makes it sounds like the homeowner was just a clueless dolt who never went to the basement. How about the case where the homeowners go out for dinner one night and when they return, they find that someone has broken into their house and there is a crying newborn baby in their living room that is now a member of the family!
And he thinks that the constructors of the 14th amendment were the dumbest people on earth (altho i thinkk they were progressive aka communists)
Sure. Just like slavery is legal.
i hope you are saying that slavery is no where authorized in the constitution. only the counting for census of said persons
Agreed, the "living there for a time" element wasn't necessary. It just had to have been long enough for the woman to give birth. As you imply, a few hours is all.
If you watch the Alan Dershowitz episode on PBS “Who do you think you are” Dershowitz claimed that his ancestors were in America illegally after they arrived. His comment to that was: “that’s why I am on the side of the illegal immigrants today.” Dershowitz has a dog in the fight.
You know how we end anchor babies?
Jail their parents for being illegally trespassing then deport them and adopt out their newly born children to a loving set of CITIZEN parents!
This Anchor Baby crap would go away overnight!
Draconian, YES
Effective, HELL YES!
The babies would have their citizenship and they wouldn’t be able to chain migrate their birth parents in.
Dred Scott v Sanford 1857.
yes, men in black dresses. not the constitution
I think we should ban licker but then it’s forever, right?
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