Saudi Arabia severs diplomatic ties with US over response to conflict in Syria

Daily Mail UK ^ | 19:27 EST, 22 October 2013 | UPDATED: 19:27 EST, 22 October 2013 | Staff

[Red Badger]

Upset at President Barack Obama's policies on Iran and Syria, members of Saudi Arabia's ruling family are threatening a rift with the United States that could take the alliance between Washington and the kingdom to its lowest point in years.

Saudi Arabia's intelligence chief is vowing that the kingdom will make a 'major shift' in relations with the United States to protest perceived American inaction over Syria's civil war as well as recent U.S. overtures to Iran, a source close to Saudi policy said on Tuesday.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan told European diplomats that the United States had failed to act effectively against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, was growing closer to Tehran, and had failed to back Saudi support for Bahrain when it crushed an anti-government revolt in 2011, the source said.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Dubai will become a fascinating ghost town when oil is eventually replaced.

[bert]

No, there are other very strong forces in play.

If you look you will see strong financial forces have set up there. Any global or regional company worth a damn has intensive presence in the form of offices or distribution warehouses or even production facilities. Industrial facilities using the feed stock are already old and mature and new one on the way.

They may well corner the aluminum market. The largest smelter in the world is there using the gas to turn the turbines to make the massive amounts of electricity required. They have world class ports and sell their port management services abroad.

The businessmen are in charge and they are diligently growing their businesses.

[2CAVTrooper]

Seriously dude are you related to Mike Mitrosky? Or is it just all those chemicals in the ground water up there?

All this conspiracy crap about the “new world order” is just that CRAP.

You see, you have the old world IE Europe (I dare you to find it on a map).

Then you have the new world IE the Americas of which we are geographicly part of.

The old world is that place that gave us two of the bloodiest events in world history (World War 1, and World War 2). They also plagued humanity with communism, and socialism, not to mention nazi’s, etc.

The new world is what gave humanity peace and prosperity. We the United States the greatest country in the new world has been a shining beacon of freedom, peace, prosperity, and innovation for a very long time. We through our will power have set millions of people free across the globe.

The “new world order” is just that we the United States should take our rightful place and actually LEAD as opposed to following the “old world order”.

Members of the old world order (communists) have been trying for over a century to destroy us because by destroying us they can retain their power. They are the ones who conjure up these fairey tales about global conspiracies, and 9/11 was an inside job, etc, etc.

Alex Jones, Ron Paul, 9/11 truthers, etc are all members of the old world order hence they spread these lies with very little truth mixed in to scare the unintelligent and the low information types. They are exactly like those who went around Europe in the middle ages crying that comets in the sky, shooting stars, or solar eclipses were something horrible because the pagan gods were angry with the people for shunning them by embracing christianity.

[CPO retired]

That’s the real hold on the US. We have plenty of oil and gas, and have known it for years. It’s their control on our fiat currency that’s the problem.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

That's good, I guess, since they don't seem to take Islam too seriously.

I'll look forward to Riyahd becoming a ghost town, then.

[MinuteGal]

Quick, get Hillary back in as our top diplomat. Yeppers, she'll get everything back on track in the Middle-east again.

Yessiree....

BTW, has anyone seen her or Kerry lately? Are they in Boston today with Sibelius for the big gala?

Leni

[Red Badger]

Hillary! got out while the getting was good............

[bert]

Riyadh skyline....... it ain't King Abdul Aziz's ol' town any more

[AD from SpringBay]

This sounds like a job for John Kerry! Seriously, the Saudi’s are string pullers and Great Leader should probably take this development seriously. Big $$ involved, and all that.

[PieterCasparzen]

Seriously dude are you related to Mike Mitrosky? Or is it just all those chemicals in the ground water up there?

All this conspiracy crap about the “new world order” is just that CRAP.

No, it's not crap, but disinformation is often employed, so one needs to discard quite a bit that is questionable or provably false.

So there is tons of info out there that is wrong.

But there unfortunately is a conspiracy which becomes obvious when one has access to various historical facts that are quite completely swept from the public view and from history taught in our education system.

First, new world order is a term that has been used by the very people - in their own writings and speeches - as something very different from "giving the world peace and prosperity". It's been stated by these people that their goal is to have one world government, to subsume national governments into it.

As an American whose family lines go back over a dozen generations, I take offence at the notion of giving up American national sovereignty.

The various facts are so shocking to patriotic Americans that I think it always takes some time to come to grips with reality once one realizes it.

Also, it's difficult to grasp the financial aspects of what's been going on. As opposed to being complex, most of the deception is indeed utterly simple, yet so brazen in its goals and in its ruthlessness that, again, it's very difficult to come to terms with at first. One does need a very solid understanding of very basic, fundamental concepts of a) profit and loss statement (reports on a period of time) and b) balance sheet (reports as of a point in time). One must also understand the fundamental idea of debt versus equity. In terms of economics, just the first few simple concepts like supply and demand must be understood.

Members of the old world order (communists) have been trying for over a century to destroy us because by destroying us they can retain their power. They are the ones who conjure up these fairey tales about global conspiracies, and 9/11 was an inside job, etc, etc.

Communism was invented in the UK by people with direct relationships with financial elites. I'm working on a post which briefly describes the highlights. The Bolshevik revolution headquarters was that of the American International Corporation at 120 Broadway in NYC, an address that not so concidentally also housed the New York branch of the Federal Reserve and the exclusive Bankers Club at it's top floor.

A very basic concept to grasp is that all revolutions have financing. This should make perfect sense because a) they have a cost for men and resources and b) what stands to be gained is literally the takeover of a nation, which, of course, represents a tremendous profit potential, as the financiers of the revolution would potentially be able to establish monopolies for themselves which operate under the front of state monopolies.

No one I ever heard in a school ever speaks about the financiers behind revolutions, businesses lost or businesses gained; they stick to the fairytale of the revolution's "politics". Most of American history that is taught is a myth because it leaves out parts of history that are crucial to knowing and understanding past events.

Most figures from history are not at all what I was taught they were, both "liberal" and "conservative". A good example of this is FDR - history completely ignores the fact that he was a financial elite, coming from old-money Wall Street roots, i.e., what used to be termed the "eastern establishment", and that his grandfather Warren Delano made his fortune in the opium trade. The myth of FDR, however, told to liberals is that is was some "man of the people"; nothing could be further from the truth.

[savedbygrace]

This is so sad. I mean, I remember when candidate Obama was going around the country in 2008 assuring us that foreign countries would love the USA so much with him as President rather than that mean ol’ President Bush.

HA!

[Repeat Offender]

You don’t buy muslims....only rent them.

[GeronL]

They have the cash and an army, why don’t they invade Syria?

[familyop]

Looks like our US dollar won’t be unnaturally propped up, fixed and rigged much longer in this commie slave world economy. Better stop the social pathologies (e.g., the hysterical fear of overpopulation) and get to some real work here, or else.

[Rainier1789]

The Saudis were also opposing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, more so than Obama, who is now failing to arm to the defenders of Christianity in Egypt.
However, Obama is managing to unite the world... (Israel, Argentina, Brazil, Iran, Turkey, Russia, Germany, even France) in a loss of respect for the American president. If they were friends of the US under Bush, that is a problem for Obama.

[dfwgator]

The MB is foiling the Saudis plans of imposing Wahabbism on the globe.

[sarasmom]

You say that, as if it was a bad thing....

LOL!
What are they going to declare the “new reserve”?
The Yuan?
The Yen?
The Euro?

ROTFLMAO!
Talk about absolute chaos in the financial markets!
(Which deserves a reckoning, BTW)
I would be very happy if the international monetary exchange rates returned to rational levels.

That way, the USA would no longer be used as the evil external enemy, who all other nations must strive against, by the various stupid socialist leaders of those foreign nations.

I say make the Yuan be the baseline!
They have a billion people, right?
Let their government tax them to feed the starving people in Africa!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Red Badger. Stupid headline — in the original.

There’s a rumor that the Saudis have suggested they may go in a different direction. Not a word about breaking relations.

some sidebars:

Saudi Arabia’s test: How far to push its frustration over US policies on Syria, Iran?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/23/saudi-arabia-test-how-far-to-push-its-frustration-over-us-policies-on-syria/

What’s got into the Saudis?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/19/opinion/saudi-arabia-security-council-phillips/

GCC backs Saudi Arabia rejection of UN seat
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/10/gcc-backs-saudi-arabia-rejection-un-seat-2013102022651363292.html

Why the snub?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/pomegranate/2013/10/saudi-arabia-and-un

While UN ambassadors urge Saudi Arabia to reconsider its UNSC seat, GCC and Qatar back KSA’s decision
http://www.albawaba.com/news/un-saudi-arabia-527591

Kuwait wants Saudis to take up UN Security Council seat
http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/kuwait-wants-saudis-un-security-council-seat-115202240—business.html

King Abdullah, Jordan king discuss regional issues
http://www.arabnews.com/news/468363

Opinion: Will the Battle for Qalamoun torpedo Geneva II?
http://www.aawsat.net/2013/10/article55320103

Opinion: A Belated Discovery
http://www.aawsat.net/2013/10/article55320018

are here’s something that isn’t news:

Obama’s Job Approval Declines for 3rd Straight Quarter to Near-Record Low
Cybercast News Service | October 21, 2013 - 5:56 AM | Susan Jones
Posted on 10/21/2013 10:38:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3081659/posts

[PieterCasparzen]

Saudi intel has a long relationship of helping and financing MB. Kamal Adham was cozy with them.

MB and Saudis are not opposing each other.

[jpsb]

While I agree with you about US dollars, the Saudis do need the US military to protect their oil fields. Russia a competitor in oil and ally of Iran will not protect the gulf states oil fields. China is the only BRIC nation that might be willing and able to replace the US. It’s military is capable and it’s economy is large enough to support a petro-yuan type deal. Obama and to a lessor extent Bush have made a mess of the middle east and the US economy. The slow train wreck continues.