John Kerry Praises New UN Gun Treaty – Could Lead to National Registry

Gateway Pundit ^ | June 3, 2013 | Jim Hoft

[2ndDivisionVet]

Secretary of State John Kerry welcomed the opening of Arms Trade Treaty for signature today.

The Obama administration plans on signing the treaty “as soon as the process of conforming the official translations is completed satisfactorily.”

The United Nations passed sweeping legislation in April that will regulate the international arms trade and could lead to a national gun registry in the United States.

No wonder Democrats love it!

There’s more… In March the pro-Second Amendment Senate Bill 139 passed 53-46. 46 Democratic Senators voted against the bill which would: “Uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.”

[2ndDivisionVet]

How do they get this without the Senate? Buehler? Buehler?

[stephenjohnbanker]

No worries, it’s just that 2 time gigolo Kerry.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

[bicyclerepair]

(D)istrict of (C)riminals

[LibLieSlayer]

It has no force of law without the Senate ratifying it and no matter what anyone says... that is the truth. I do not think that they have nearly enough votes to pass it in the Senate.

LLS

[Vaquero]

Must be ratified. It is not ratified

[Sherman Logan]

2/3 vote needed to ratify.

Even if ratified, the notion that a treaty overrides the Constitution is just plain untrue.

2A is unaffected by a treaty.

[muawiyah]

Further, no treaty does anything without enabling legislation, and that requires the House to get involved.

[illiac]

I am sure someone, somewhere, at some time, has been killed by ketchup.

Time for a national registry....

[Arm_Bears]

They can pass all the frakking treaties they want. I am not bound by anything that is an abridgement of my natural rights.

[longtermmemmory]

you mean the same way the state department ordered the 3d printer designer to stop all distribution of PLANS due to an arms TREATY?

[LibLieSlayer]

Absolutely!

LLS

[2nd Bn, 11th Mar]

I swear, it often seems as if the left in this country wants us to water the Tree of Liberty.

[circlecity]

"How do they get this without the Senate? Buehler? Buehler?"

They don't. It's just like how Clinton signed the Kyoto global warming treaty but the Senate went on to reject it 98-0. Budda's signature was meaningless.

[apillar]

They (the president) can sign wall paper for all I care. Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

It's my understanding that President's in the past have said they would abide by the terms of treaties that have been signed and not ratified. However, this is pretty much the President just saying they will direct executive branch agencies to abide by the terms of their own treaty as long as it doesn't conflict with existing law. It has no legal standing. So Obama couldn't, say, direct an agency to create a national registry and then use this unratified treaty as a defense in court.

[MrB]

And then there’s the whole ‘getting the people to comply’ problem.

[Sherman Logan]

Did the 3d printer guy fight it in court? Any agency can order anybody to do anything, but if challenged in court they must show where they get the authority to enforce the order.

Anyway, I don’t think the case you mention would involve 2A so much as 1A.

[laplata]

And one of the biggest gun grabbers in the Senate assumed room temperature today.

[Carry_Okie]

Without senate confirmation, the signature is meaningless.

No, it's not. Pursuant to the government's 40 years of illegal adherence to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, administrative agencies will be committed to not do anything to contravene the treaty, even with just a signature. It's "customary international law."

[hal ogen]

skerry is the penultimate Fool.