California’s Largest Corporation is Headed for the Exit (Golden State Death Watch™}

Front Page ^ | 12/25/2012 | Daniel Greenfield

[jpsb]

"There’s just too many folks moving to Texas. It aint the same anymore...."

Completely agree, it is very annoying. I am trying to think of someplace I can go to get away from all these new people flooding Texas. Very unhappy about all this, our life style is being ruined.

[jpsb]

Texas has miserable weather Alabama or Mississippi is much nicer. Last night it blew 40 mph/ 35F and 90% humidity, Texas sucks. Don’t move here!

[PapaNew]

You could use libertarians like me in your state, especially with the recent and projected influx of contrarians. I don’t want to go where I’m not wanted so tell me where you live so I can stay away from moving next to you.

[PapaNew]

Get out before the “exit tax” is voted into law.

What is that and what's the likelihood of it being enacted?

[Huskrrrr]

A ballot proposal is underway in California that would amend the State Constitution with a Wealth Tax. Specifically, this is an additional tax to be levied against high valued property, and high income (between 36.5% - 54.3% one-time tax) should a resident die, or decide to leave the State of California.

The writer of the proposal is a CPA and liberal activist by the name of Paul McCauley. In addition to taxing folks for trying to get out of California (or simply dying, for that matter), the proposal imposes an additional 17.5% tax on total incomes of taxpayers with income exceeding $150,000 (which, considering the cost of living here in California, that is not really that high of an income) if single, or $250,000 if married; imposes an additional 35% tax if income exceeds $350,000 for a single person or $500,000 for a married couple, and requires the State to acquire shares of specified corporations to influence environmental policies and practices.

The Dems have a super majority in Sacremento. they can now pass any tax they choose.

[combat_boots]

So, welcome to the Hotel California.

[bestintxas]

I grew up in Texas with no a/c
Now would be tough
As to hurricanes they are few and far between
Unlike tornadoes and earthquakes you can outrun them easily
I have lived also in England, connecticut( next to newtown) California and Louisiana and Texas is by far the best

[exDemMom]

I relocated in fall of 2010, and every time I go back there are more stores closed, more potholes in the streets, and everything just looks worn out.

There's a store in the Sonoma area that I remember shopping at (with my father) in the 1960s. I happened to drive through that area during my last visit. I don't think the store has had a single renovation since the 60s; at best, it's had routine maintenance. That's a sad statement for what is supposedly a fairly well-off area. People can't afford to make things look nice when they're paying so much in taxes that they are struggling to make ends meet on what would be a decent income in many other states.

[rlmorel]

I am not sure about that, and the linked article wasn’t clear. If it is 800 employees on top of what Chevron employees already existed in Texas, then it might shift the balance. 800 employees are a drop in a bucket, but it might be adding to existing numbers that have meaning.

[rlmorel]

I won’t inject myself into this, but I do see in threads like this a common theme that denigrates people who don’t flee a state (too lazy, stupid, liberal to leave) coupled with a “last over the bridge” approach in the target state, basically saying “...don’t even think of coming to my state, because regardless of your political views, if you are from State A then you are damaged goods and you are going to ruin everything when you arrive...”

I live in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts, and apart from California which many people profess to want to see slide into the ocean, the state I live in is equally reviled by many, and for some good reasons.

I have often said, that if it weren’t for my wife (who won’t leave this state) that I would be long gone, but that is perhaps just a convenient excuse...the pain level is not so high that I would rationally do it.

Point is, there are a good number of conservatives up here. Heck, I probably know all of them...:) We all know a secret handshake and such. We get painted along with a lot of bad folks, and often unfairly. I used to do the same thing about California.

Talk about wearing my own faults on my back...:(

Liberals have destroyed the strength of the Constitution via unimpeded use of federal highway funds and other such goodies...the strength of allowing each state to govern as it sees fit, and provide alternatives for people. If you didn’t like a law in State A, you could migrate to State B because it had different approaches to a given law. That is far less common now, with the Federal government using those fund distributions to hammer down nails that are sticking up.

If (when) things go south, it is unlikely to be contained within state lines.

[Windflier]

I do see in threads like this a common theme that denigrates people who don’t flee a state (too lazy, stupid, liberal to leave) coupled with a “last over the bridge” approach in the target state, basically saying “...don’t even think of coming to my state, because regardless of your political views, if you are from State A then you are damaged goods and you are going to ruin everything when you arrive...”

Yes, and it's a damn shame that some people make it so personal. Relocation from one state to another is nothing new. It's been going on since we were just thirteen colonies. People move to what they consider 'greener pastures' for any number of reasons, economics and politics being just two of them.

Believe me, I understand the emotional component that exists among everyone concerned. I myself tend towards a hardened view of those who flee the U.S. for 'greener pastures' in other countries. I sometimes feel as though they're abandoning their countrymen in their hour of need, although that's certainly not the case of the majority of expats freeping here.

I've also been on the side of the 'abandoned'. Years before we ever considered leaving California, I spent lots of days defending my home state in these kinds of discussions. For my part, I never denied that California had the systemic problems it does. I understood that it wasn't everyone's cup of tea, and that the political climate was simply a deal breaker for them.

What I mainly objected to, were the usual caricatures of Californians that get bandied about. Too many people tended to lump all Californians into the same pot with the wackos and the crazies, when those types are really the minority. Most people residing there are honest, hard working, law-abiding, and family oriented. Sadly, those good people have also taken little interest in politics over the last thirty years, and have allowed the hard left to hijack their government while they weren't looking.

Mea culpa.

That said, I didn't choose to leave California for my own benefit. Because I'm what we might call a 'high information voter', I was forced to consider what the future in California held for my four children. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to see the forecast that lay ahead for them in that state, and it was grim. So grim, that my wife and I chose a path forward that was not only difficult, but pretty scary.

We didn't have a secure income ready for us here, and didn't know but a few online friends when we arrived. We left a lifetime's worth of support infrastructure, and stepped into a new life that had to be built from the ground up. Let me tell you, it's been harder than anything I've ever done, and we're still not back to where we were before we left.

But, I know in my heart that I made the correct choice for my kids, and that's what matters most to me.

I have a strong desire to see California turn itself around. Unlike some here, who suggest giving the state back to Mexico, I'm not willing to give up a single square inch of my country to anyone. We would be failing our ancestors and our progeny, if we ever did that. It's my intention to see us take back the whole of the United States from the foreign and domestic enemies who are destroying this magnificent country.

This is an American issue - not a state issue. The cancer that is eating out our substance is spread throughout the fifty states, and must be eradicated from all of them.

[rlmorel]

I could not be in more complete agreement with the content of your reply.

I always found it kind of humorous in retrospect that I would refer to California as "The Land of Fruit and Nuts" without a passing consideration of "the sign on my back", being from Massachusetts.

Your closing paragraph: "...This is an American issue - not a state issue. The cancer that is eating out our substance is spread throughout the fifty states, and must be eradicated from all of them..." summed the issue up well: If there is cancer in the body, cutting it out of one part generally doesn't cure it.

And that cancer is called "liberalism".

[Windflier]

If there is cancer in the body, cutting it out of one part generally doesn't cure it. And that cancer is called "liberalism".

And thus, we come full circle to the very goals and purposes of this website. I honestly feel that Freepers are the best of the best in this country. As a wise Founder once said, we must all hang together, or we will surely hang separately.

[truth_seeker]

“Daniel construction used to be a big name around this area but long ago it became Flour-Daniel and now I don’t hear that name any longer. I wonder what finally became of the Daniel name.”

Now called Fluor Constructors, Inc.

Prior to that, called Fluor-Daniel.

[Fred]

Time to sell California back to Mexico. At least they will drill for oil off the coast.

[rlmorel]

"...we must all hang together, or we will surely hang separately..."

And we all know nothing concentrates the mind like a hangin'.

[LucianOfSamasota]

Unfortunately, Texas will not remain a ‘red’ state either.

Refugees from the various Socialist America states will migrate for jobs, but bring their liberal voting habits with them.

Then BHO will finish his open borders ‘amnesty’ program, and the flood of Mexican socialists will send Texas down the same path as California.

Godless, putrid socialists are like locusts - they destroy an area, then they move on to destroy the next area. Its their nature to destroy, they just can’t help it.

[4Liberty]

[bestintxas]

“Texas has miserable weather Alabama or Mississippi is much nicer. Last night it blew 40 mph/ 35F and 90% humidity, Texas sucks. Don’t move here!”

Well, I got on a plane in Houston on Christmas Eve at 76 Dev perfect weather and landed in Seattle at 37 Dev and raining

Le that sink in

[cradle of freedom]

Since they are anti-gun, they couldn’t very well shoot people in the back as the East Germans did. [:-}