California’s Largest Corporation is Headed for the Exit (Golden State Death Watch™}

Front Page ^ | 12/25/2012 | Daniel Greenfield

[cradle of freedom]

I’ll laugh my arse off when Brown is replaced by someone with an Hispanic name. It is only a matter of time—and poetic justice.

[MarMema]

And how do you like Texas?

[Windflier]

And how do you like Texas?

I love it. It reminds me of the California of my childhood. Everything's growing and uptrending here. The future looks bright, for as far as the eye can see.

[MarMema]

Thanks. Do you mind telling me in what part of Texas you are currently residing?
We’re looking at other states for a variety of reasons..

[jpsb]

I live on Galveston Bay in a little village called San Leon. This used to be a sleepy little fishing village with hardly anyone but fisherman living here. But about 10 years ago Houston "discovered" us. Now tons of mostly rich people moved in and commute to either Houston or Clear Lake. Well I really should not complain, since I did exactly that my self 15 years ago. I used to live in Seabrook, but when Seabrook started turning into Houston I moved here. Now here is again turning into Houston, with a few refugees from Cali thrown in.

I left New York for Texas back in 76. In 76 you could drink a beer driving home from work and not have to have insurance. Today Texas feels a lot like NY in 76, and trending left. We are very close to becoming a blue state much like NY did in the 80's. Already the big cities are blue as is most of south Texas. Politically we are feeling the inpack of all the "new comers". If things continue Texas will be blue soon.

[ridesthemiles]

The new rules for trucks and engines on reefer trailers will cost California more jobs and their shelves will be bare within a month.

Independent truckers cannot afford to pay $25,000 to $140,000 to change over their vehicles to new Calif CARB standards for deisel engines, so those truckers will no longer be going to Calif.
My neighbor hauls potatoes from N Nevada, where they grow, to Commerce, at least once a week. Effective next Tuesday, he will get no loads unless he spends thousands on his truck. The new rules even say that any broker that loads such a truck/trailer will also be fined!!!

So—those of you who shop at Ralph’s in So Cal-—not many potatoes coming your way.

[ridesthemiles]

Word here in N Nevada is that Apple is building a BILLION $$$ facility for ‘Cloud’ in Reno, and they are looking to bring other facilities here and out of California.

About 5 years ago, Cabela’s built a brand new store——just about 5 miles inside the Nevada border. They made it abundantly clear that they would NEVER build in California. This store draws people from Calif-Oregon-Washington and Canada, as well as here in N Nevada.

[ridesthemiles]

Any such ‘tax’ would be fast-tracked to the Supreme Court. It would be a violation of interstate commerce laws, IMO.

[PapaNew]

Heard Maryland already has an “exit tax.”

[Carry_Okie]

You know, if you'd started your exchange with me in a civil tone, when I hadn't directed a single word your way.

Your tone was not civil. It was condescending, arrogant, inconsiderate, and self-adsorbed. Nor is this some isolated incident with you. From what I can tell having searched your posting history, you've made over 1,000 posts touting how much California sucks, how smart you were to move to Texas, and how everybody else should too. In a great many of those cases, you are among the first to leap onto the subject. It's akin to leaving a losing football team on the field and to switch jerseys with minutes left in the game because "it's game over" and then, as the clock ticks down, running around through the stands shaking hands and telling the fans what a loser team you left. Over and over.

Yet before searching that posting history, I checked on something else, and what do you know but I found exactly what I had expected exactly where I suspected. You see, you had already admitted that my planned accusation of cowardice was true:

Windflier: I wanted to vote McClintock, but was more afraid of Bustmante the Socialist winning, so voted the "sure" ticket.

13 posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:05:48 AM by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

Hence, the content of your character and what motivates you was obvious.

FReepers were warned that Arnold was a liberal. There were hundreds of posts to the thread and MANY references to it, and not just by me. NormsRevenge, countercounterculture, and especially calcowgirl all carried a fight to inform against implacable and probably paid professional disinformation artists. But you, like so many FReepers now banned, were so afraid, so blinded by fear of a Marxist Ls Raza activist, that in your panic you ignored readily available facts about the stealth socialist "alternative." You voted for a "safer" liberal out of fear, despite the fact that the specter of Bustamante was deliberately overblown by your own GOP.

Here are the facts:

This is the last USA Today/CNN/GALLUP poll before the recall.

"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

September 25-27
Registered Voters

McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%

Probable Voters

McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%

19 posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:44:04 AM by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)

That nearly twenty point margin was widely circulated before the recall, information that refuted your baseless fears were you not so blinded by them as to be incapable of seeing the opportunity. Gallup may often be wrong, but not THAT wrong. Those numbers showed that Arnold would take as many voters from Democrats as he did Republicans. Had conservatives voted their heads or hearts instead of their fears, as you did, McClintock would have won a three way race against a racist Marxist and an effectively liberal democrat. Tom McClintock has the kind of will and character that might have saved this State from itself. You didn't have the guts to back him and I'll bet you didn't send him any money either.

So, once Arnold started to show his true colors (as predicted here by said numerous reliable posters you ignored), instead of owning your mistake and accepting responsibility for redress, as soon as things started to look sure to turn for the worse, you split for greener pastures.

All I had to do was Google: "Windflier, Arnold, Bustamante," and it popped right up. It was the first search string I used. I suggest you muse upon what was so obvious to me about your posting that I would go there.

Republicans do this to and for themselves routinely. The political class is counting on it. You fell for a campaign of fear by your own party and ran to a new State. Yet that same Party is pulling the rug out from under you in your new State as we speak. Once the demographics turn sour in Texas, as they surely will, you'll blame somebody else just as you did California, and run... where?

This is a global battle against communo-fascism; there is no place to run, blind and witless, simply delaying the real fight instead of preparing to win. You were touting your wisdom and strength of will, but covering for your still-active fears, deeming anyone who chose to stay and fight in California as somehow lacking in resolve. You were hoping for ego reinforcement for your "wise decision" (and I have seen you revel in it). You know it. That's why you keep doing it.

You had already shown no concern whatever for the circumstance of others of which you then accused me. That's why my simple edits on your own words fit so perfectly. It was pure projection on your part.

No, your posts looked like a guilt trip to me. You confirmed it just as soon as I prodded. I told you the truth, and you went ballistic, apparently without even reading the link effectively quoting you as fair warning. Now, read your own tag line above. It fits like a glove: You voted for a liberal, one who got away with implementing socialist policies that even Gray Davis never attempted because he would have faced unified Republican opposition Arnold had no reason to fear (you were warned about that too). You were told the truth and you squealed.

You didn't know squat about me, that I'd given up $1.5 MILLION to join that fight against fascism. You didn't know that I did it to develop means to cut the legal and technical legs out from under the beast. Nor did you care to learn that in that fight, I do work so degrading, so physically arduous, that it would be illegal for an illegal alien to do it commercially. That's publicly available information too. I do it gratis, just to do what I could to save free enterprise in this country from environmental racketeering. You didn't know that no university or government project has ever come close to having achieved our results, much less that they are now admitting it. You didn't know that my patent predates and possibly invalidates carbon trading. All were developed over a period of FIFTEEN YEARS for use in California. You say that if I had strength like you, I could just leave.

You didn't even care to look at my FR page before posting, showing not as much care as I had already done before posting to you. Yet your need to justify your actions was so great, that doing it for the thousand and first time was simply automatic.

That is why you went off the deep end when I called you on it: In reality, you don't give a crap about Texas; you like what Texas does for you, for now. What you really care about is saving your own skin. It is an obsession that will get you killed if you don't pay attention. It is a consequence of an atomized society, one where extended families with the kind of deep roots that make them immovable now have virtually no political meaning (now go read the second half of the Fifth Commandment; that's what it means). It is that very lack of "no place to run" out of a deep commitment to family instead of our individual "needs" which should have motivated you to dig deeper and fight, really fight, every polite debate with every leftist you meet. That is a conservative value. Its lack is but one reason why the collectivists are beating us.

FR was founded and still operates from California. Last I checked, California FReepers were still the largest contingent on this site and routinely among the biggest contributors to its funding. No, I'm not going to move. Neither to my knowledge is Jim. So you deem us fools for staying and then tell me I should have been nice when I proved that...

You helped drive the stake in the heart of this State when you fell for your fears, violated your principles, betrayed your fellow conservatives, and voted for Arnold. You were warned and heeded your fears to save your skin. When you figured out that it was a mistake, you ran.

Had you checked the link in my first post to you here, you would have seen the quote above and (if you had kept your wits) realized what I meant and shut your ample yap. Every time I see a FReeper spitting on those left behind in California, I check to see if they voted for Arnold. You see, the correlation is excellent. You squishy conservatives are just like the liberals who flee for Colorado in that regard.

I don't care what you think of me; I want you to repent of your behavior, if only to save Texas. So if rubbing your nose in it is what it takes...

So be it. Expect more in the future with references to this post quoting you so plainly that no one will miss it.

[Windflier]

Good lord. I can't believe you spent the last two days drilling down in my posting history in order to prove what a bad man I am. That's obsession.

Your tone was not civil. It was condescending, arrogant, inconsiderate, and self-adsorbed.

Listen you. This started when you came out of nowhere and attacked me. I wasn't even talking to you. I was expressing my personal reasons for leaving California to another poster. For whatever reason, you took my statement personally. Here is where it all started:

"Anyone can leave the state if they've got a strong enough purpose to do so."

Now that's some "strong purpose."

Run away! Run away! Run away! Save yourself!!!

Coward. Just because you don't know how to defeat liberalism you leave. If you think Texas is a refuge, you've got a rude awakening coming. So now you advertise for agreement, hoping that numbers will make it feel better.

(snip)
You don't know how to win the long war. You don't know how to sell conservatism to liberals. Instead, you wait for the knight on a white horse to save you and lo and behold: Arnold was the coward you deserved.

So you run.

Attack, attack, attack, insult, attack. All unwarranted and unprovoked.

You want to stay and defend California, go right ahead. It's none of my business, just like my relocating to Texas is none of yours.

I'm done talking to you now. I had no intention of talking to you in the first place. Walk away, and I'll do the same.

[Windflier]

Do you mind telling me in what part of Texas you are currently residing?

North Texas. DFW metroplex.

[AFPhys]

California’s greatest failure is that they don’t tax people and corporations enough. If they took everything people couldn’t move away due to lack of funds.

[central_va]

I have lived in the South all my life and have witnesses the Yankee invasion for 40 years. I have not met ONE conservative transplant.

[central_va]

The foolish Lamentations of scared Yankee “conservatives” afraid of being behind enemy lines. LOL.

[Mears]

“Point is, there are a good number of conservatives up here.”

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I’m one of them. How ya doin’?

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[MarMema]

Well it looks good. We hope to be joining you in the next year or two.
Lots of healthcare jobs, not sure wbout real estate yet...our chi rescued from an LA shelter will love some sun back in her life.

[rlmorel]

I have to disagree, and I think you do yourself a disservice to think that way.

I was born in Norfolk Naval Hospital and spent my life as a brat before I enlisted, but Massachusetts is where my family calls home. I have been a lot of places, and you will find conservatives everywhere you go. Conservatism transcends race, sex, nationality, you name it.

Not everyone sees conservatism as a blood birthright, because it isn’t. It isn’t in your genes, your blood-lines or your patch of land.

It is in your mind and in your heart.

[rlmorel]

Heh...do you know the secret handshake?

I didn't bump into you last summer at this Tea Party in Boston Harbor, did I?

[rockrr]

Personally I think that it takes a lot more brass to live and work - and be an activist - behind enemy lines than to live in a bobblehead community. You’ve got Massachusetts and I’ve got (western) Washington and we’re both surrounded by loonies ;-)