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U.S. Marine Arrested for Facebook Posts
Salem News ^ | 8/19/2012 | Tim King

Posted on 08/19/2012 10:24:36 AM PDT by ponygirl

Feds retaliate against another critic of the U.S. government.

(SALEM / RICHMOND) - A decorated U.S. Marine who served his nation in two wars, Brandon Raub, of Richmond Virginia, was arrested for airing his critical views of the U.S. government on Facebook this weekend. We just reported yesterday that a Human Rights activist in Bahrain is being prosecuted for six Twitter messages. Politically, this country is increasingly resembling Bahrain and other nations that arrest those who speak out critically over federal policy.

His mother, Kathleen Thomas, says it is another case of the word 'terrorist' being applied to arrest and detain a citizen. You can hear the pride she feels for her son when she explains what he has been through, and by all counts Ms. Thomas makes her points loud and clear.

The law enforcement officials rolled up to the man's home around 7:00 last night. "He was there, the FBI, Secret Service and Chesterfield Police showed up in a storm," she said.

Thomas says her son was questioned about why he was writing certain comments, "He basically said 'I have some disagreements with the government and share this', and they said, 'You have to go with us'".

(Excerpt) Read more at salem-news.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; again; cw2; cwiiping; facebook; govtabuse; military; raub; socialmedia
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To: SaraJohnson

Do I think the government is too big?
Yes.

Do I think the government has exceeded it’s constitutionally delegated powers in many areas?
Yes.

Do I think it needs to be downsized and have things like social welfare programs go back to the states where they rightfully belong?
Yes.

Do I think that everyone in the federal government is anti-free speech, and trying to get ready to round up conservative Americans, religious Americans, or other Americans based on what they believe/say?
No.

I suspect many people who work for government are actually pretty pro-American.
Sure, for quite a few, it’s just a job.
But there are good eggs in there.

But I doubt very many at all really understand what the Constitution means and that the federal government is one of LIMITED JURISDICTION AND SUBJECT MATTER.
But most Americans don’t understand that any better than government employees.


61 posted on 08/19/2012 8:53:09 PM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: SaraJohnson

“..It’s still not okay..”

Didn’t say it was “OK”, ma’am.

I just suspect his political affiliations, is all. The OWS crowd has an entire anarchist component to it that is just waiting to cause havoc.

What he said, and the way he said it, constitute terroristic threats by today’s standards - especially with a paranoid left-wing admin in control.

Tomorrow’s standards may be even worse if what’s-his-name gets re-elected.


62 posted on 08/20/2012 8:50:40 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: bigheadfred

“My daughter has this little psychopath bastard of an ex-boyfriend who has harassed her for the last 2+ years. Keeps getting her phone number. She has changed it nine times in two years. He is in Texas, we think. She is in Oregon. But his last text messages included things like “I am going to come kill you”. “I’m going to go Idaho and cut your (new)boyfriends throat.” This is in (writing) texts. I contacted the FBI because she is afraid. They said there was nothing they could do.”

You might try contacting the local U.S. attorneys office citing this law:

18 USC § 875 - INTERSTATE COMMUNICATIONS

(c) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/875


63 posted on 08/20/2012 10:12:53 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: 9YearLurker

1. The references to “Sharpen up my axe; I’m here to sever heads”???? That’s a lyric from one of Raub’s favorite bands. In the song “Bring me down”.

2. SCOTUS decisions are clear. You can write what you want, and say what you want, as long as it does not involve imminent danger such as shouting “fire” in a crowded theater. Or in the case of gross violation of a communities standard of morality such as pornography. Neither was the case here.

3. Given the above, the FBI agents and others that were involved should be suspended. They should be either dismissed or retrained. Wherever the orders were issued from should be investigated and the person responsible should be dismissed for cause. No pension or benefits should be given to those that have violated the Constitutions protections of free speech.

I don’t agree with a number of the things that Mr Raub put on his Face Book pages. So what? “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
— The Friends of Voltaire, 1906 (By Beatrice Hall)

On the subject of Constitutional rights: True patriots must sometimes hold their nose to support principle. If we allow the erosion of our rights by the government, we endanger the rights of all. As Benjamin Franklin stated: “We must all hang together, or surely, we will all hang separately!”


64 posted on 08/20/2012 11:25:23 AM PDT by untangle (A song lyric got Raub in trouble?)
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To: ScottfromNJ

I will have her do that. Thank you.

Might save me a trip.


65 posted on 08/20/2012 12:33:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: ponygirl

More on this story:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920782/posts


66 posted on 08/20/2012 1:10:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

That is why if you post on Facebbook use a fake name and hide your IP. Make them work to find you.


67 posted on 08/20/2012 5:00:25 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: 9YearLurker
"It was essentially threatening to kill people over it that did. "

I agree. I previously read them here on FR, but strangely, have not seen them repeated in this thread or the othet two listed by dirtboy. It is a crime punishable by at least 6 mo jail term in TX to make a terroristic threat. I think that it is also a felony (not sure). It seems to me that some of this Marine's statements were serious enough to warrant some kind of intervention.

68 posted on 08/21/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by matthew fuller (They'll have to pry my gun, my bible, and my chikin from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Travis McGee

If you are talking about a hypothetical scenario and a response to an action in that scenario, you can have broad liberties in what you say of a violent nature. We do that all the time here at FR. I am sure some in government security agencies look at some of the things said here and raise an eyebrow maybe, but wargaming, or discussing historical parallels is clearly protected speech, and that is the end of it.

But when someone makes an overt, specific threat against a person, people in general, or an organization of people, then they deserve any heat that rains down on them.


69 posted on 08/21/2012 5:07:28 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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