Posted on 05/17/2012 10:58:09 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satisfies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For example, Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860 — one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment requires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. territory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961 — not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.
Exactly. Leave the birth certificate out of it.
You keep using the same FLAWED assumption that ‘citizen at birth’ equates to ‘natural born citizen’.
The are two different forms of law. 1) Positive Law - these are man made laws, such as those passed by Congress, States, and local governments. And, 2) Natural Law - this is the unwritten law of nature and the devine.
What the term-of-art ‘natural born Citizen’ means, is exactly what it says, a person born a citizen via Natural Law.
What is a Natural Law citizen? A Natural Law citizen, a citizen that does not require ANY Positive Law to be a citizen. The time the above applies, is when a child is born in a country, to two citizen parents. Anyone who does not fall into that category, is not Constitutioeligibleggible to be President.
first AFRO-Indonesian president. ;-)
Wow! Excellent, thanks for clearing that up, wish more people would post that info. Sounds like Evans got a little pissy pants there.
My God, if it can be definitively proved that this putz was not born in the hospital he claims he was, and I think it can be proved with some subpoenas, to say the sh*t is going to hit the fan is going to be the understatement of the millennium. It would be the biggest con job in this countries history, short of Al Gores global warming scam of course. He most definately would be arrested, am I right? He must be absolutely crapping in his pants if this is true.
It is not a matter of following it. Obama was never challenged by the GOP and the Tribe/Olson opinion was requested by the Senate to determine McCain’s eligibility. If it was settled law re the definition of natural born citizen, then why ask for a legal opinion?
Minor v. Happerset IS settled law.
Again, Barry is in the office out of fear. Even Hannity, right now, two from Brietbart are saying the person who had this document was IN FEAR for their professional and personal life by bringing this out.
It took non binding resolution 511 to attempt to *make* McCain a natural born Citizen.
The only thing that could have *made* a person in McCains position a "natural born Citizen" was tried and repealed by the founding generation. The Naturalization Act of 1790:
And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed..
They tried to legislate the known definition to include those children born outside the territory, but repealed that with the Act of 1795.
Maybe they are not mentioning this brochure is that they cannot verify that it is authentic. Once it is proven to be legitimate, the will link to it immediately.
“I’d rather go with the ‘Elizabeth Warren, using a phony background to advance myself’ line of attack.”
Undoubtedly this is what happened.
It is the only thing consistent with the inconsistency!
This is where the systematic takeover of law enforcement comes in though. One state does not have to honor the subpoenas of another. So the only subpoenas HI would have to honor are those by the federal government.
And federal law enforcement is under the control of AG Eric Holder.
Does that give a clear picture of exactly where we’re at and why?
How many Dems would be willing to cross the aisle to impeach the bastard?
Not enough Pubs to do it unilaterally.
Boner probably wouldn’t initiate in the House anyway.
If I’m not mistaken, that clause reads, or at least read back then, that the unmarried U.S. citizen mother could transmit her “nationality” to her foreign-born baby.
“Nationality” and “citizenship” are two distinct legal terms: while all citizens of the U.S. are also nationals of the U.S., not all ationals of the U.S. are also citizens of the U.S. For example, American Samoans are nationals of the U.S., but not citizens of the U.S. Nationals of the U.S. may travel to and (I believe) work within the U.S., but do not have rights reserved for citizens (such as voting in U.S. elections and passing on U.S. citizenship via jus sanguinis).
Thus, unless I’m missing something, an unwed mother would pass on her U.S. nationality to her foreign-born son who was not a U.S. citizen at birth under some other law, which would allow her child to live and (eventually) work in the U.S. But she wouldn’t pass on her U.S. citizenship.
Ed Morrissey of Hot Air (one of the) Hardest Hit.
He used to wave this piece of live birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper and claim it is the Birth Certificate.
I have seen the original and revised bio. What I don't get is why did he add 'raised in Chicago?'
Oh yes; totally agree and believe this is a 'practical tract' for these people who will let NO one; bring them down; if they can at all; help themselves. (Actually just posted similar; but not nearly as 'point on' as your analysis./lol)
Who can say they remember their birth or first few weeks of life? They only know what they have been told and shown.
Obama, the locked in looser, takes his campaign war chest for later political runs, says it has come to his attention that he was misled and for the good of the Party, etcetera, etcetera.
Hillary or some other leftist says a new day is dawning....
Hannity seemed to be pushing this as 0bama embellishing his past more than being actually born in Kenya. Breitbart guys seemed to be saying that it was more about the media not investigating 0bama than him being from Kenya.
Did mention that they have tons more material, so we shall see.
You’re the new Buckhead....Thanks for getting the word out so soon.
That’s not entirely true, IMO.
There’s no requirement that the president prove with documentation evidence that he is natural born. There couldn’t be because there was no such thing as a birth certificate when the original 13 colonies were founded.
Also, an election is not one national election. There are 50 separate elections. Each state has a person elected to a position with the responsibility of “certifying” that each name to be put on the ballot is in fact qualified to be there. Once that person signs off on it, that name is legal to be on that ballot.
In my opinion, you would need to prove that each of these 50 election certifying individuals signed off on Obama’s name knowing that he is not qualified to be on the ballot or that they displayed gross negligence in obtaining some kind of assurance, before you could go anywhere with this. But remember, a birth certificate is not required. Maybe all that is required is that a relative give’s his/her word on obama’s behalf.
OR
get a case to the supreme court and force them to make a ruling.
She was 18 actually, but point still taken! Not eligible to pass on citizenship...
;)
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