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You keep using the same FLAWED assumption that ‘citizen at birth’ equates to ‘natural born citizen’.

The are two different forms of law. 1) Positive Law - these are man made laws, such as those passed by Congress, States, and local governments. And, 2) Natural Law - this is the unwritten law of nature and the devine.

What the term-of-art ‘natural born Citizen’ means, is exactly what it says, a person born a citizen via Natural Law.

What is a Natural Law citizen? A Natural Law citizen, a citizen that does not require ANY Positive Law to be a citizen. The time the above applies, is when a child is born in a country, to two citizen parents. Anyone who does not fall into that category, is not Constitutioeligibleggible to be President.

You keep using the same FLAWED assumption that ‘citizen at birth’ equates to ‘natural born citizen’.

Are you a constitutional scholar and lawyer or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Epress? Until the courts decide on the definition of "natural born citizen," we are left with reality. Under your defintion or belief, neither Obama or McCain was eligible to run for the Presidency. Or Barry Goldwater or Charles Curtis. The reality is that Obama is in the WH. Until the courts decide that he is ineligible to serve, Obama will finish out this term and run for another.

Your FLAW is that you want reality to conform to what you believe it should be. I will say it over and over. This must be resolved in the courts sooner rather than later. We have 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year to illegal alien parents. There are 40 million foreign born in this country now--one out of every 8 residents. By 2050, one out of five will be foreign born. There is some urgency about this issue.

What the term-of-art ‘natural born Citizen’ means, is exactly what it says, a person born a citizen via Natural Law.

What is a Natural Law citizen? A Natural Law citizen, a citizen that does not require ANY Positive Law to be a citizen. The time the above applies, is when a child is born in a country, to two citizen parents. Anyone who does not fall into that category, is not Constitutioeligibleggible to be President.

We have long argued that the meaning of "natural born citizen" used by our founders in Article II was based on Emerrich Vattel's "Law of Nations" (Droit des Gens) which was read by our founders for years prior to the Constitution and was also used as a reference in the Constitutional Convention. (And the ratifying debates among several states as well.)

If we are going to accept Vattel's definition regarding "natural born citizen" then we should also accept the rest of what he says about it.

It is my opinion that the children of those who serve in our Armed forces are "natural born citizens" regardless of where they are born. It is the Parent's citizenship which is the determining factor, not the ground upon which they stand.