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Thanks, David.
[Now, I'm really leaving for the remainder of the day.]
Posted on 02/01/2012 7:17:02 PM PST by Sallyven
[snip]...Jablonski remained true to his word -- neither he nor Obama showed up for the January 26 hearing. I noted last week that Obama was not scheduled to be anywhere near Atlanta on the date of the hearing, although I had wondered if still, perhaps, Georgia might be on his mind. According to reports in the blogosphere, the president's schedule on the morning of the 26th was open, and according to an unnamed source, Obama watched the live feed of the hearings.
Perhaps Obama, as well as the several mainstream media news outlets I spotted at the hearing, were merely watching in hopes that the "crazy birthers" would really do something...well, crazy. Or unlawful. In fact, though, it was the president himself and his defense team who were the ones defying the rule of law.
The mainstream media, in lockstep with Obama, reported nothing of the events, in a stunning blackout on a truly historic hearing -- one that discussed the eligibility of a sitting president to run for a second term. And more troubling was the fact that the media failed to acknowledge the even more sensational news -- that the president and his defense attorney snubbed an official subpoena.
Today, Attorney Van Irion, on behalf of his client, Georgia resident David Welden, filed a "Motion for Finding of Contempt" with Judge Malihi...
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Thanks, David.
[Now, I'm really leaving for the remainder of the day.]
You always say that!
appeal??
Forget everything I said. You are right, the horse is well dead and rotting under our noses. The United States no longer exists. What’s left of the union of the states no longer exists. We have 50 Sovereign nations now, if they have the balls to stand up to the tyrant of the Federal Government. The Constitution is dead.
I know whats coming down the pipe. I can’t talk about how I know. So don’t ask. This country is SCREWED. Anyone born here can be POTUS now. ANYONE. It’s a done deal.
This will go to SCOTUS eventually, but I can see the handwriting on the wall. The Constitution is GONE. The Damned liberal progressives have won. Welcome to slavery. Freedom is dead. The rule of law is dead. The Great Experiment is over. We lose.
FU*K YOU OBAMA. FU*K YOU LIBERALS. May your own damned-able actions curse you and your families for 7 generations. I will hate them forever for doing this. I am ashamed to say I even LIVED in this era. I am horrified to be watching it unfold.
Pardon me, I seriously need to go vomit.
Curse you to a hell of your own making Malihi.
You said what is in my mind and heart.
Buckup Danae, it is not over yet. You certainly know the Ankeny decision is generally regarded in legal circles as being substantially flawed. We just need to hope stronger litigators will pick up the baton and pursue the issue.
With the clarity of hindsight, it is obvious plaintiffs should have collected the default and prepared to go to a higher forum. Hopefully, next time plaintiff’s attorney will not advise the court that birthplace is irrelevant (how unbelievable was that?).
Mine too. Just waiting for the eventual 2nd civil war between the 2 political parties. May the best man win. It may not be in our lifetime, but it will happen. It is inevitable.
In Georgia, Secretary of State first and a ruling on the law probably isn't going to make much difference to him. Then, an appeal to the Georgia Courts.
In most states, the appeal to a Court would be on the record at the administrative law hearing and the burden would be on the appellant to show clear error on the facts or the law as found and applied by the administrative law decision maker (as opposed to de novo where the appealing party could introduce new evidence to show that the Ad Law hearing officer made a wrong decision; or other law to show that he was wrong on the law; or in some jurisdictions, de novo on the record in which case the factual record would control subject only to the clearly erroneous standard but the review on the law would be open to new argument).
In Georgia, someone on the thread posted Ad Law hearing rules and then wrote their own conclusion that the court appeal is de novo. I didn't study that statute because the ending paragraphs looked as though the appeal was really restricted to the record.
That issue is further affected by the fact that zero didn't appear for the hearing and disregarded an order to do so.
As to Illinois, again, without having studied either Illinois law or the record, if the initial action sought a remedy only for the primary election, there isn't going to be any practical appeal because it won't get heard before the election which would moot the appeal.
On the other hand, if counsel on our side sought an order with respect to the final election, depending on what kind of a record he made and offers of proof, and further depending on the law with respect to such decisions, it would appear that an appeal might have some chance to get an effective remedy. Counsel in that case would presumably be in with motions for orders shortening time and providing for expedited hearings to get resolution in a sufficiently timely way.
It’s not going to be very long.
Obama Exposer reads Fogbow. So do I when I think it’s relevant. (Which is usually never.) He outed Blade Bryan as “William Brian” and as a result got him zotted.
Obama Exposer has interesting sources of information that he seems to play close to his chest. If you are worried about him, keep an eye on him, and if he tells you something, you can always look for corroboration.
Other than that, I see no point in insinuating he is a false flag operative. Till he does something to indicate it, I would at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
You can not prove that I am wrong on this point.
Proving you wrong is child's play. Aldo Mario Bellei (of Roger v Bellei) was a "CITIZEN AT THE MOMENT OF BIRTH." He lost his citizenship because he did not meet residency requirements. A "natural born citizen" does not have to meet any residency requirements.
See there? You are proven wrong, and it only took a few sentences.
And -— that frustrates you to no end.
And now YOU are in that boat. :)
And where would that stipulation be found in the law? Where do you read that a Natural Born Citizen cannot lose his citizenship because of residency requirements?
Shhhhh!!! Don't stir it up! We don't want to listen to it.
I know, it's who you are. But I'm still grateful.
You still haven't pointed out where in the Constitution Congress is delegated this power. Remember.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Amendment 10, Constitution for the United States
I would vote for him.
As would I. We can only hope to get more like him in our public offices.
There are an infinity of things not stipulated in law regarding what will NOT cause you to lose your citizenship. You show me the affirmative law that will do so for a "natural born citizen". I refer you to Rogers v Bellei for the affirmative law regarding that particular "born citizen" losing his.
Put up or shut up.
Those little things? Here's philman's armored gun platform.:)
Actually I have no idea what kind of ship he served on, if any.
Technically he is. Practically he is not. The electors have separate ballots or counts for each office. It's just that with "pledged" electors, they are pledged to both candidates on the ticket. How a court would rule on the question, given that they had ruled the head of the ticket to have not been eligible, I haven't a clue. But the point is almost moot, it would take nearly until the election to get The Won out even if he is declared ineligible by a lower court early next week. So President Biden could be around for a few months.
Technically he is. Practically he is not. The electors have separate ballots or counts for each office. It's just that with "pledged" electors, they are pledged to both candidates on the ticket. How a court would rule on the question, given that they had ruled the head of the ticket to have not been eligible, I haven't a clue. But the point is almost moot, it would take nearly until the election to get The Won out even if he is declared ineligible by a lower court early next week. So President Biden could be around for a few months.
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