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Exactly so. We are not electing a "debate champion", but a President. Perry was given "gotcha" questions and the moderators avoided giving him questions where he could showcase his record and plans.

As a FReeper said, what we need is for Perry to do for the US what he did for Texas: low taxes, low regulation, business frienly climate, that results in job creation and economic growth.

1 posted on 09/23/2011 11:07:59 AM PDT by Clairity
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Perry ping.


2 posted on 09/23/2011 11:08:40 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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Y U P


3 posted on 09/23/2011 11:10:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change. " Robert Anthony)
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lol. He would say that. It's not debating that is the issue. It's the ability to effectively communicate and sell your ideas.

And it's not either/or. A candidate should have a record, a vision, AND the ability to effectively express/sell that vision.

Perry's record isn't that great. His vision, what we know of it, is indistinguishable from the other candidates, and his ability to communicate is demonstrably weak.

4 posted on 09/23/2011 11:10:59 AM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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Everyone is bashing Perry, because they try to pull him down, but remember he was down some 20 points behind Kay Baily Hutchinson and ended up beating her by a significant margin.

He is no quitter.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going, that’s Perry.


5 posted on 09/23/2011 11:11:20 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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ding a ling.


6 posted on 09/23/2011 11:11:33 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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The Perry detractors would much prefer four more years of the Teleprompter Reader in Chief.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 11:11:53 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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I give him a pass on being a lousy debater. I don’t give him a pass on being a demagogue with the immigration issue, and calling 95% of conservatives “heartless.”


8 posted on 09/23/2011 11:12:05 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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I agree.


9 posted on 09/23/2011 11:12:33 AM PDT by seoul62
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BARRIO PERRY

10 posted on 09/23/2011 11:12:33 AM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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Spin FAIL.


11 posted on 09/23/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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Perhaps Perry can paraphrase Mark Twain: “The report of my political death was an exaggeration.”


12 posted on 09/23/2011 11:12:59 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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low taxes, low regulation, business frienly climate, that results in job creation and economic growth

Any republican can do that. What we don't need is a president who thinks a border fence is over reacting and that we owe the illegal alien offspring an eduction.

14 posted on 09/23/2011 11:13:35 AM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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We need to elect the best we can find for this country. A person that is against communism and socialism. We need to develop the attitude that we won’t accept just anyone to beat Obama.......we will only accept the best we can find to beat Obama. The best for the country, not the best for me, not you, not any other individual......but the best for the country and the future of our country.


15 posted on 09/23/2011 11:13:44 AM PDT by RC2
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Ruh-roh.


19 posted on 09/23/2011 11:15:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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Perry: I was a good debater after I was before a bad debater after before race to the top... Never mind.

Watch my commercials.


21 posted on 09/23/2011 11:15:52 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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Screwing up a debate defeated Ford, defeated Jimmy Carter,helped elect Clinton, and helped defeat Algore. The way Perry is going now, he couldn’t stay even in a debate with Dennis Kucinich. I have great doubts about a candidate who knows what questions are coming and is so unprepared to respond. His answer re. Pakistan brought back images of Teddy and Roger Mudd. It shows a lack or preparation or a lack of confidence or both. Perry is off my list.


22 posted on 09/23/2011 11:15:55 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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We are not electing a "debate champion", but a President.

I agree and if Rick Perry wants to be that person he should stop defending the indefensible and STOP insulting those of us in Texas who opposed him on the matter!

23 posted on 09/23/2011 11:16:26 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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"Karl: One more thing: When you call in to Hannity's show today, be sure you talk about how badly Perry did, and how amazing I was last night. Regards, Mitt"


24 posted on 09/23/2011 11:16:41 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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Excuses, excuses, excuses.


26 posted on 09/23/2011 11:16:46 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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While I have liked PERRY to this point I find his stance on Illegal Immigration more and more troubling. In state tuition for children of illegals? No! His reasoning was absurd!. Don’t build a fence? - WRONG ANSWER! He says if you are against his positions on this you have no heart. I can get that crap from the Democrats. It’s not a matter of not having a heart. It’s a matter of disincentivising illegals from wanting to come or stay here. If you keep giving them benefits it just gives them a reason to stay. And you start them on the “path” to democrat voting rolls!

Make it so uncomfortable that they will leave on their own!

If they want to come in LEGALLY, then I welcome them!


27 posted on 09/23/2011 11:17:01 AM PDT by Castigar
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