Posted on 08/02/2011 2:19:47 PM PDT by Hojczyk
It seems to be the new talking point: The deal is a victory for conservatives not because of what it does (which is, not much!), but because it supposedly represents a change in the direction of the debate. Once, Washington discussed what to grow. Now, Washington discusses what to cut. Even former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has echoed the theme — but with qualifications. The Wall Street Journal Washington Wire reports:
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Monday’s House vote to lift the debt ceiling was a victory for the tea party, proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.
“We shall take this victory and make sure our politicians in office today are learning from this victory,” Ms. Palin said Monday night on Fox News, where she is a paid contributor. “It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.” …
Ms. Palin didn’t fully embrace the deal, saying she had plenty of problems with the compromise between the White House and congressional leaders, including Republican House Speaker John Boehner. In the past, the former governor said she was not convinced America would face a default if lawmakers did not raise the debt ceiling by Aug. 2.
Meanwhile, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the founders of the Tea Party Caucus in Congress (along with GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann), says the deal can’t possibly be touted as a win.
“The Tea Party is not calling this a victory,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said today on Fox News. “I’m certainly not.”
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Palin was correct. This is a big victory for the Tea Party. Spending cuts with no tax increases. Cuts to the Democrat’s favorite socialist programs like Medicare.
It’s a huge political victory for conservatives too. Obama’s approval rating has plunged, and is now lower than at any time during his presidency.
Now we just elect a Tea Party president and Senate next year, then finish the job with the rest of the spending cuts.
Obama and the dems wanted to raise taxes now and actually spend more, so how is this not "a step in the right direction"?
She only repeated Greta's word "victory" and only used in in the context of the debate. I'm not suggesting this was a good deal, and neither was she. The author and the Palin bashers here misconstrue the discussion she and Greta had, listen for yourself.
Good post!
Show’s the mentality here. They cannot comprehend what is written- their bias gets in the way of their brain cells. And that’s not conservatism - so they out themselves.
We won the issue
The deal is a bad deal all around
In this case, yes. I wish they’d all always agree with me. Alas, it isn’t so. But in this case, Palin and West are wrong.
“... but this cult of personality has built up around her such that people project their views onto her. The bottom line is that she is not some 100% Conservative hero.”
Yes, I call it the “Tough-talking RINO Effect”. No matter how many times a Republican politician helps the Democrats, lots of Republicans will assume he’s a conservative as long as he talks tough (or uses a firearm or served in combat).
The examples are endless: McCain, Giuliani, Chris Christie, Krauthammer, ...
Do you understand what she said?
This bill IS a step in the right direction...Palin is correct.
It is a partial victory.
"listen for yourself."
I listened very carefully. She said the "actions taken this week" meaning the debt bill were a partial victory or a step in the right direction.
Or will the debt ceiling deal become popular? If taxes on oil companies can become popular so can the debt dealing among the faithful.
You don't want to go there. It degenerated into a flame war and too many long term FReepers got tarred as trolls and threatened with a zot.
Here's the link to what Sarah actually said. Her "victory" remarks start just after three minutes -- she clarified what "victory" means in the context of shifting the debate, what it does NOT mean (handing Obama a blank check for 2.4 trillion, yes she said TRILLION, for example).
http://www.therightscoop.com/sarah-palin-quite-appalling-to-be-called-a-terrorist-by-vice-president/
8/1/2011 8:18:00 AM
In America, a grassroots oxygen
Richard Moore
Investigative Reporter
If you believe the headlines in the mainstream media these past few weeks, you have to believe the country is on the verge of collapse.
Not only will default on the nation’s debt wreck the economy, if it happens, but Washington’s political stalemate is an example of the complete dysfunction of the American political system, the pundits and reporters tell us.
According to this analysis, we are witnessing the breakdown of governance itself. The American political system is on the brink, and no one has wanted to wink.
It’s all so much nonsense. I’ve addressed the economic consequences of default before - or the lack thereof - but now let’s take a look at this so-called collapse of American democracy and political institutions.
No matter how the debt talks turn out (or have turned out), what we have witnessed is not the collapse of governance, but the first serious challenge to an entrenched establishment in decades. What we have witnessed is not the obstinance of ideologues, but the courage of the principled.
http://lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=10&SubSectionID=68&ArticleID=13549&TM=63552.84
No, Palin is not wrong...she is correct.
What happened this week was a step in the right direction and the Tea Party helped us from getting a much worse bill.
She didn't. See the link at #72.
Now all those lazy slobs holding out there hands for “Obama’s Money” will be salivating.
Exactly! The difference between the two is that Perry would win a landslide while Palin would stand no better than a 50-50 chance.
Then we don’t have much of a disagreement here but I don’t understand the snarkiness, or am I misreading what you are saying?
there = their. :)
But you just pull that one phrase from what she continued to say ...
"... it's a step in the right direction. Yet still, you know, I'm not celebrating as a pure 100 percent victory the actions that have been taken because, again, we're handing a very liberal president and his colleagues a check in order to spend even more money that we don't have. We're not taking the steps still to reform entitlements so that those safety nets can be there for future generations. And we're not taking steps, Greta, to become energy independent. We're still over there talking to dictators, talking to foreign country leaders, asking them to ramp up development of energy supplies when we have those God-given resources here, underfoot, that we should be developing in order to be energy secure, one more step to get the economy back on the right track."
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