Or between the 'time of birth' and when she enrolled at the University of Washington on the 19th of April, 1961?
Posted on 12/24/2010 12:47:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver
Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’ By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
HONOLULU — Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who befriended President Obama’s parents when they were university students here, has been in office for less than three weeks. But he is so incensed over the “birthers” — conspiracy theorists who assert Mr. Obama was born in Kenya and challenge his right to be president — that he is already seeking ways to change Hawaiian law or regulation to allow him to release additional proof that the president was born in a hospital here in 1961.
“It’s an insult to his mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father — they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that,” Gov. Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday night. “It’s an emotional insult, it is disrespectful to the president, it is disrespectful to the office.”
Mr. Abercrombie, who represented Honolulu in Congress until leaving Washington to run for governor, said he has initiated conversations with his attorney general and his health secretary about how he can make public more explicit documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu. He said he has done so of his own accord, without any request from the president or the White House, which declined to comment.
“He’s a big boy, he can take sticks and stones, but there’s no reason on Earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people who’s motivation is solely political,” Mr. Abercrombie said. “Let’s put this particular canard to rest.”
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
According to documentation published by World Net Daily, Obama’s mother was living in Seattle and attending the University of Washington three weeks after Obama’s birth.
There is no evidence that Obama’s mother ever returned to Hawaii before Obama’s father left to attend Harvard.
And, there are NO published photographs of Obama's parents together with baby Obama.
“.....[Abercrombie] has initiated conversations with the state’s attorney general and the chief of its Health Department about how he can release more explicit documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.”
There is NO publicly available document that states Obama was born at KMG Hospital.
In fact, KMG Hospital has never confirmed that Obama was born there.
KMG Hospital once stated in a fund raising letter that Obama was born there.
When WND asked for documentation, KMG Hospital deleted the letter from their website and has refused public comment since.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Neil the ass clown greeting Barry Soetoro instead of Gov. Lingle at the arrival in Hawaii???
Of course, if Barack Obama Jr. was really born in Kapi'olani, the hospital could resolve the issue by releasing even a single document from its patient records indicating that Stanley Ann Dunham was admitted as a patient there in 1961. In doing so, it would not be violating anyone's privacy rights, since Ms. Dunham is deceased, and Barack Obama's name would not appear on such a document.
And you would believe it if they did? I certainly wouldn't. NOTHING except physical release of certified copies of an Obama birth certificate with all the information that exists on other Hawaiian birth certificates of that time will do. Even then I would want six months or so to pass after such release in order to give the people who know how to detect document fraud a chance to do their work.
ML/NJ
It is a simple matter to prove one’s natural born citizenship. Obama refuses. Why?
RATIONAL voters have good reason to be suspicious that he is not a natural born citizen.
Unanointed Americans prove their natural born citizenship routinely for many reasons.
Fact: A real natural born citizen and president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be Commander in Chief.
Fact: RATIONAL voters have good reasons for being suspicious that Obama is not a natural born citizen. ( Our nation's enemies do, too!)
Well?...Gee!...Since it is soooooooo straight forward, Obama should just release the records.
It is a simple matter to prove one’s natural born citizenship. Obama refuses. Why?
RATIONAL voters have good reason to be suspicious that he is not a natural born citizen.
What's all this convoluted talk about subpoenas and state attorneys general not being Obama fans? Huh?
FUNDAMENTALLY!!!
A **real** natural born citizen and president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be Commander in Chief.
RATIONAL voters have every good reason to strongly suspect that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. ( Our nation's enemies do, too!)
If Kapiolani had those records, all they would need to do to put a damper on the speculation about Obama's birthplace is to release one document - or even part of one document - indicating that Stanley Ann Dunham was a patient there in 1961. It wouldn't violate Barack Obama's privacy rights if his name were not on that document. The point is that it is very unlikely that Kapiolani has such a record, because it is very unlikely that Stanley Ann Dunham gave birth to him at Kapiolani Hospital!
And that’s the thing that really needs to be front and center when the issue of Obama’s documentation is aired. The HDOH has made statements, and whatever they’ve got in their office needs to fit with those statements. The embedded transaction log for Obama’s vital records has to match also. At this point if Abercrombie thinks he’s gonna pull out a squeaky-clean forged long-form and we’re all gonna just say everything is fine, he has another thought coming.
You don’t go through all the law-breaking the HDOH has engaged in if there’s not something to hide. And Obama himself has said that he would be embarrassed if the long-form was revealed, so whatever they come up with his to have something “embarrassing” on it as well.
See, I think they’re preparing for the release of a forged long-form, but they’ve got too much crap they need to explain. Not just the HDOH but the Hawaii Democratic Party, DNC, State Dept, Selective Service Administration, etc. They need to explain why they wanted to label me a “vexatious requestor” who could be denied my access rights as well as (according to recommendations when the bill was being considered) be FINED because I requested investigations of illegal activities in the HDOH.
I need an explanation for why the HDOH sent my money back rather than send me a 1961 computer-generated birth index as they had said in a nationally-run article saying they would do.
Maybe Abercrombie doesn’t realize what he’s dealing with, but the HDOH and the other crooks have burned too many bridges and spit on too many law-abiding, conscientious, patriotic citizens for any of them to be able to just come up with a forgery and make this all go away.
Abercrombie, you and your pals are in doo-doo way deeper than the tops of your boots, and once this thing is opened up you are going to beg for mercy before it’s all done. There’s no “oops” about this. It was a deliberate hoax, perpetrated by you and all levels of government and media, and we the people are not amused.
We were not amused even before an innocent man was denied his due process and Sixth Amendment rights, thrown in the slammer, and had his livelihood stolen from him, his wife, and 3 kids. But now that he’s been shafted by all you sickos, we are literally mad as hell, and you are not squirming your way out of this. We will not let this rest until all the wrongs over the last 2 years have been righted, Lakin is freed and his livelihood restored, and the crooks who perpetrated this (including at LEAST Abercrombie, Pelosi, Gibbs, Bauer, the Factcheck thugs, Fukino, Okubo, Soros, and Obama) are sitting in jail for a very long time.
At this point all he would have to do is stop DISOBEYING the current laws, and ALL Obama’s “vital records” would be disclosed to the public. Since Fukino made her July 2009 announcement, all the records she relied on to make that statement are considered public - REQUIRED to be disclosed.
If Abercrombie is angry about bills in several states to require Presidential candidates to present legal documentation of their eligibility, saying that people should just ask him about Obama, then he has NO CLUE about how the law works. You don’t document eligibility by asking whoever happens to claim they were somewhere around there when a kid was born. There are legal standards for evidence. And requiring documentation is not something a real American should be angry about; that is why we have a DOH in each state.
I think Abercrombie made it clear that he is worried about these eligibility laws passing in various states, and wants to try to bridge the gap between Fukino’s LIES that she couldn’t reveal anything (but then making announcements that supposedly revealed everything anyway) and Abercrombie eventually disclosing a forged long-form - in order to try to show these states that they don’t have to pass these laws.
But even that shows just how clueless these people are. We the people have taken too much crap for simply expecting the Constitution’s requirements to be fulfilled. We’re not about to say this is just about Obama. At this point Obama is neither here nor there to me. What DOES matter to me is the lawlessness that has been revealed, and the way our system ties the hands of anybody who wants to insist that the Constitution be followed - even imprisoning and stealing the livelihood from a military officer for daring to keep his oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.
This is WAY, WAY beyond just Obama, or just the 2008 election. This cuts to the very heart of what this Republic is all about - the rule of law rather than rule by men.
If Abercrombie thinks this would all go away if somebody just asked him and he said he saw BHO and SAD bring the baby to social events (even though the documentation we have so far indicates that SAD and the baby were not even IN HAWAII during the time Abercrombie references, since SAD was taking classes and living in Seattle) he DEFINITELY has another think coming.
I think all politicians should be drug tested, the govt employees are and this clown Abercrombie exhibits sympoms of stupidity or a drug addled brain. Then again liberalism is a mental disorder...either or...
That’s exactly what I mean. Hope you are having a very happy Christmas!
“...And he is angry about legislation in several states that would require presidential candidates to document that they were born in this country. A similar bill died in Congress last year.
“My thought was, ‘Wait a minute, why didn’t you ask me, my friends in the national Congress, the House of Representatives?’ ” he said...”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40806789/ns/politics-the_new_york_times
It is going VIRAL!
Over 1640 comments at this moment. It’s incredible how ill informed most of them are.
Or between the 'time of birth' and when she enrolled at the University of Washington on the 19th of April, 1961?
It suggests to me there never was an original...the ‘letter’ was made up on the fly, it doesn’t follow the speech he made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trqfq9FY1Ig
Funny how Zero arrives in Hawaii and now suddenly Abercrombie is talking about the birth certificate controversy, and they made sure major media L.A. Times and New York Times reports it.
Why is that? What are they so worried about? Zero is losing the internet communication/information war for one. He’s complained publicly twice about what people are talking about with his past on the internet.
Now Abercrombie wants to run his mouth about hanging around the baby mother and father. He’s digging a bigger hole.
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