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Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’
New York Times ^

Posted on 12/24/2010 12:47:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’ By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

HONOLULU — Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who befriended President Obama’s parents when they were university students here, has been in office for less than three weeks. But he is so incensed over the “birthers” — conspiracy theorists who assert Mr. Obama was born in Kenya and challenge his right to be president — that he is already seeking ways to change Hawaiian law or regulation to allow him to release additional proof that the president was born in a hospital here in 1961.

“It’s an insult to his mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father — they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that,” Gov. Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday night. “It’s an emotional insult, it is disrespectful to the president, it is disrespectful to the office.”

Mr. Abercrombie, who represented Honolulu in Congress until leaving Washington to run for governor, said he has initiated conversations with his attorney general and his health secretary about how he can make public more explicit documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu. He said he has done so of his own accord, without any request from the president or the White House, which declined to comment.

“He’s a big boy, he can take sticks and stones, but there’s no reason on Earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people who’s motivation is solely political,” Mr. Abercrombie said. “Let’s put this particular canard to rest.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Wuli

And he is the only person to claim he knew them as a couple at that time. And what kind of “social events” would they be taking the newborn to between his birth and his mother’s arrival in Washington to visit her high school friend when he was only about 3 weeks old?


101 posted on 12/24/2010 10:42:43 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: woofie

...and that might be because once you have told a lie, or presented a forgery, no one trusts you a second time.


102 posted on 12/24/2010 10:55:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: woofie
“Although Abercrombie’s goal may be to support Obama, experts who study political extremism say the release of additional evidence would only perpetuate the conspiracy theory. They say people who embrace such theories are guided by suspicion and, therefore, view any contrary evidence as part of the conspiracy.”

That was a knee-slapper!

Experts in fraud (that would be me) say Obama’s failure to sign a release of his HI vital records even to keep LTC Lakin out of jail is a giant red flag for fraud and usurpation in this case.

Observing that Obama has failed to release what should be exculpatory records (records that would get him off the hook if they contain what he claims they contain) is not belief in a conspiracy theory, it is simple observation of Obama’s self-incriminating behavior.

103 posted on 12/24/2010 10:58:41 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Fred Nerks; woofie
One more time into grist mill...

There was no Kapiolani Hospital in 1961. It wasn't built until the mid '70s.

Besides, the laws of the State of Hawaii are meant to protect records from dissemination to any persons not the individual or a family member with cause.

The law is valid and sensible. Changing it for the benefit of perpetuating a fraud is simply inane. Only an extremist governor with personal ties to the perpetrator of the fraud would attempt to violate the existing law.


Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
104 posted on 12/24/2010 11:29:10 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Let’s put this particular canard to rest.”

Sure, Govie...you’d like that. Where’s the birth certificate and it all goes away...


105 posted on 12/25/2010 12:16:04 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Seizethecarp

And where did King Obama decide to have family Christmas - Hawaii. Not some winter wonderland to let the girls learn to ski or some other exotic destination for MO. Nope, he scampered back to Hawaii to make sure those records will never see the light of day. Though I wouldn’t put it past Gov. Gross Teeth to just be spouting off the latest entry in the marxist playbook and that this is just a distraction.


106 posted on 12/25/2010 5:48:58 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Sub-Driver; LucyT; hoosiermama; rxsid
......make public more explicit documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth......

This will become an even more target-rich-envioroment! This is gonna be fun :)

107 posted on 12/25/2010 7:22:05 AM PST by urtax$@work (,)
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To: doorgunner69

“he is already seeking ways to change Hawaiian law or regulation to allow him to release additional proof that the president was born in a hospital here in 1961”

I bet the moment obama’s people saw this they started making phone calls. There is a reason obama does not want any records released! They prove he is not a Natural born citizen. This governor is a total idiot, he believes his own b.s.


108 posted on 12/25/2010 7:46:27 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: bgill
“Though I wouldn’t put it past Gov. Gross Teeth to just be spouting off the latest entry in the marxist playbook and that this is just a distraction.”

Threatening Obama with release of his vital record file is one hell of a distraction!

It looks to me that Abercrombie has figured out that the protection has come off Obama and the Factcheck COLB won't cut it any more, meaning Abercrombie must disentangle himself from the Great Usurpation ASAP!

109 posted on 12/25/2010 8:12:46 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: The Comedian
I think Abercommy is going to release selective things. They know they have a problem getting on ballots in 2012.

They cant open his records because he became an Indonesian citizen. Adoption records were filed with the state for an Indonesian boy. Once one record is allowed out, the ball unwinds. It opens up more questions. So, they are now trying to cherry pick innocuous documents.

110 posted on 12/25/2010 8:45:12 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Albertafriend
Abbercommy, big fat lying communist pig.
111 posted on 12/25/2010 8:52:22 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Sub-Driver
Governor Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday. “It’s an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office.”

Dear Mr. Abercrombie, I lost all respect for president and the office when he chose to send a 18 year combat veteran to Leavenworth instead of releasing his qualifying records. The President and his office have earned my disrespect. He's a Scumbag and the office has no moral authority. GFY Abercromby.

112 posted on 12/25/2010 9:00:57 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: woofie; butterdezillion
Abercrombie admits that “birther” demands for authentication are valid and not a conspiracy theory when he says, in the last lines of the NY Times article:

“My thought is, ‘Rather than get into some kind of argument or play into that mentality, why not just simply try to authenticate this and let the facts speak for themselves?’ ”

Are the SPs and anti-birthers reading this? This is not Lingle, the waffling former HI governor. This is the current HI governor who says he was “there” in HI in 1961, but yet still says “why not just simply try to authenticate this” BC meaning clearly that Obama’s HI BC was _not_ fully authenticated by Linge, Fukino and the 2007 COLB.

BTW, Huffpo’s are going nuts over this and begging Abercrombie not to play into the “birther” (non) conspiracy theories. They are begging Abercrombie and the NYT to ignore the story or go back to the prior COLB talking points (won't work now that it has been proved you can get a long form). There are lots of search hits on this NY Times piece and the LAT piece as other media outlets pick up and disseminate the story. It is going viral.

113 posted on 12/25/2010 9:12:37 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: highlander_UW; Sub-Driver
they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that,” Gov. Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday night. “It’s an emotional insult, it is disrespectful to the president, it is disrespectful to the office.”

Nothing but just a big smoke-screen. This Neil ass clown know very well that even if Barry was born in the Lincoln Bedroom in the W.H., he still is NOT eligible because of his father, IF he is the father, he has dual citizenship with Kenya/UK and most likely triple citizenship later with Indonesia and E.U.!!!

114 posted on 12/25/2010 9:19:16 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: omegadawn
“I bet the moment obama’s people saw this they started making phone calls. There is a reason obama does not want any records released! They prove he is not a Natural born citizen. This governor is a total idiot, he believes his own b.s.”

You are darn right about Obama’s hit squad making calls to take down Abercrombie for making this threat, obviously over Obama’s private objections.

Abercrombie may be a Marxist fool, but he is giving the appearance of believing himself to be safer at the present time helping to expose Obama’s usurpation (while pretending to protect the memory of Obama’s parents) rather than protecting Obama by stonewalling discovery of the records.

There must be total panic at the WH, knowing that Abercrombie has gone over to the cabal that is intent on removing Obama. Abercrombie was presumably assumed by Obama to be committed to protect (hide) the HI vital records to the death and now, right out of the gate, Abercrombie want to dump them out on the sidewalk in front of the DOH and is making 11:30 PM day-before-Christmas-Eve to NY Times reporters to do it even while Obama is down the street in HI! I am amazed!

115 posted on 12/25/2010 9:25:22 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: patriot08; Sub-Driver

You just saw what happened to whistle-blowers like Lt.Co. Lakin, Pastor David James Manning, PhD at the hearings, the air line pilot from Sacramento when 6 “brown-shirts” invaded his home and took away his fire arms, hello!!!

Who can then feel safe by speaking up???


116 posted on 12/25/2010 9:31:06 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: BIGLOOK

I’m missing something here. If it wasn’t built until the 70s, why are they claiming to celebrate their 100th anniversary?


117 posted on 12/25/2010 9:56:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Seizethecarp
Dont take Abercrombie at his word. He's a full blooded communist

This is a coordinated effort with Dear Leader, Soebarkah.

They want a selective release. They can't open the files without disqualifying him, but they need more to get him on the ballots in 2012. They need to produce documents in 2011, and this is the first step. They are angry that they need to do this. That part is genuine.

118 posted on 12/25/2010 10:20:43 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: little jeremiah

It all depends on the Nov. 2 spine reinforcement.

The Communist media is upping the drumbeat against King (R-NY) because he wants to conduct hearings on Islamic terrorism and the homegrown terrorists.

I’m sure that media howitzers and screams demanding “respect” for 0b0z0 and the Presidency will meet the first whiff of even thinking about the BC.

Where were they when President Bush was vilified, called names, calls for his assassinations in Communist protests and a movie depicting his assassination outright?


119 posted on 12/25/2010 10:24:14 AM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Seizethecarp
I just wonder if it is Reggie Love posting here as the alias of jameses77

He still does not know what happened to Non-Squatter and Drew68!!!

120 posted on 12/25/2010 10:34:50 AM PST by danamco (")
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