Posted on 04/14/2010 9:10:31 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
An Army doc who refuses to go to Afghanistan until President Obama produces a birth certificate will face court-martial.
Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a decorated military man who has become a part of the fringe "birther" movement - which believes President Obama was not born in the United States - could face a dishonorable discharge for failing to obey orders, MSNBC reported on Tuesday.
The 18-year veteran came out in support of the largely discredited conspiracy theorists at the end of March, proclaiming he would "disobey" his "illegal" orders to deploy.
"I believe all servicemen and women, and the American people, deserve the truth about President Obama's constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief," he said in a video statement posted on YouTube on March 30.
The Bronze Star Medal recipient refuses to go to Afghanistan for a second tour until Obama releases his birth certificate showing he was, in fact, born in the U.S.
"Seeking out public office, especially the highest in our land, means you must uphold the Constitution, Mr. President, and confirm your eligibility," Lakin said in the video.
The Army doctor was informed of his court-martial by his brigade commander, and his Pentagon building pass and laptop have been seized, MSNBC reported.
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I’m not what they call a “birther” but there must be some reason why Obama cannot/will not prove that he’s an American. I have no problem with showing anyone MY birth certicate and I’m not the President of the United States. I don’t know whether Obama is an American or not but I do know that he doesn’t act like one.
Obama rejected his full name being used during campaigning but was OK with it AFTER winning the election. What kind of leadership is that.
Here is the link to donate to Lt. Col. Lakin’s defense fund.
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/
You can not be deployed without orders. Are the orders legal or not is the question.
It isn't a hard question. Answer the question and move on.
You are dead on. This guy reminds of Brad Pitt when he said he would not marry Angelina Jolie until gays were given the right to marry. “I won’t go to Afghanistan until until the Constitution is upheld!”
Sorry, but if that were the case, not a single soldier would deploy until Roe v. Wade was overturned and the interstate commerce clause was properly recognized by Congress.
Not sure I agree with you.
A lot of evidence indicates Obama may NOT be an American citizen, and thus, an impostor and unfit to issue orders or direct the military, or even sign bills into law.
All he need do is produce the damn birth certificate.
No other President possessed the kind of shady, sleezy, disjointed early life history this guy has.
Any American has every RIGHT to question Obama’s legitimacy.
All the more so when that American is getting orders which put his life in jeopardy from such a questionable source.
This trial should be made a test case for forcing Obama to show his certificate - if such exists.
Somehow, this case needs to get into the Civil Courts. The military will just judge the case on the basis of this man refusing to obey orders - which really isn’t the whole picture here.
I'm curious: At what point do you think it might be warranted to question the legitimacy of your commander in chief and ask to see the TINIEST bit of evidence to answer the question?
Bullsh!t!
LLS
This person you describe as "A selfish Jack Ass" is in fact the receipient of a Congressional Medal of Honor. The highest honor bestowed by this country for Valor and self sacrifice.
It was established at the Nuremberg trials that an officer has the responsibility to disobey orders that are or they believe are illegal.
Obama's status as a natural born citizen has never been established from a legal standpoint and all challenges in court have been dismissed because the complainant has lacked standing. The courts have not examined any evidence.
It would be best for the country if Obama is in fact qualified to serve as president. It would be even better for the country if this was established in court after presentation and examiniation of the evidence. It is very bad for the country that an issue of this impact has not been addressed by any legal authority and is instead played out in the media.
Lt. Col. Larkin has the standing to carry a challenge into court. Regardless of the outcome, that is good for the country because this issue needs to be resovled in court.
You know what is really bugging me though?
Here is an american hero laying his ASS ON THE LINE FOR HIS COUNTRY, and NO ONE in the media, including Rush Limbaugh, is talking about it.
What is it that the lying bastard who calls himself Obama threatened these people with? Because, seriously, it’s quite obvious that he is hiding something big, and it’s also quite obvious that those who should be talking about it are, in fact, scared crapless to do so.
“Someone needs to ask Obama if his narcissism is worth the honor and sacrifice of one soldier’s career.”
I think that President Obama has stalled long enough and needs to produce the original BC. Unfortunately, I don’t think the BC will show him born anywhere but Hawaii...but he needs to produce it.
I think the LTC/Dr. is very brave to put it on the line like this...I don’t have that kind of courage. The whole issue of President Obama’s NBC status (to include the issue that his father wasn’t a US citizen) should have been dealt with in federal court by now. Silence does not answer questions. Even IF the courts, hopefully up to SCOTUS, should rule him to be a NBC, then at least the issue is settled. In my mind, the courts have derelict to not directly address the issue; hear the case and issue a ruling - not just dismiss for lack of standing.
This issue is of national security interest. Even if a court martial crushes the LTC...it will not have the effect of silencing critics...it will make the LTC a matyr and foment more unrest in the ranks. POTUS Obama needs to be presidential and produce the BC to end that line of doubt. Then the courts need to directly address the whole NBC question to lay that to rest. Ignoring this will not make it go away.
Most birthers aren't what the msm call "birthers."
The MSM, and even some naysayers ostensibly on our side of the political spectrum, use the term "birther" to mean someone who believes Obama was born in a mudhut in Kenya and must be an obvious racist because they don't want a black president...i.e. people who firmly believe Obama has no place in the oval office.
The truth of the matter is that most real birthers are people that simply have (as yet unanswered) questions regarding the circumstances of Obama's citizenship at birth (regardless of location), possible application for a foreign student admission at Columbia, etc. In other words people who would simply like proof that Obama is Constitutionally eligible...
You're already getting a lot of grief -- please paron me if I pile on.
If a government orders soldiers to round up Jews and exterminate them, we all hope that the soldiers would hold back and not do it. We know that trials of Germans who "just followed orders" are still going on, more than 60 years after that war ended.
A Court Martial is not a guilty verdict. It's a day in court.
We train soldiers to follow orders -- but there is certainly a point where a soldier is EXPECTED to say "I will not do that". This brave man deserves his day in court so that he can see -- so that we can all see -- that the orders he has been given are legal and proper in every way.
Correct. He has taken an oath to follow all legal orders.
The problem is he has no way to know if these deployment orders are legal because he does not know if the person giving those orders (Commander in chief, President of the United States, currently barack hussein obama) is legally entitled to give those order. Obama's status DIRECTLY effects the legitimacy of any orders given in the military.
“This guy should be court martialed. It is not his personal call as to whether todeploy or not.
Now, because of his jackassery, someone else just got pulled into a last minute deployment or else his unit is going into a war zone a man down.
Selfish to say the least.”
I normally would agree with you on this one and you might say that, but I wonder what may happen if say 100 people do exactly the same thing?
Would some action be taken to see if the rebelliousness of troops warrants an investigation?
How does revolution work, but one person at a time and grows?
Did the American Revolution not do it in similar manner?
The one with the Medal of Honor is Colonel Gordon Roberts, not Lakin. Colonel Roberts is Lakin's superior officer. He was the one who informed Lakin he was being court martialed.
It was established at the Nuremberg trials that an officer has the responsibility to disobey orders that are or they believe are illegal.
Hundreds of thousands of men and women have deployed as ordered. Should they have refused and would you court martial them all for obeying an illegal order?
Lt. Col. Larkin has the standing to carry a challenge into court.
His status as defendant in the military version of a criminal trial is all the standing he will ever need.
You equate an order to deploy to Afghanistan with committing genocide?
Source of information please .
I hope this guy demands a copy of the birth certificate as part of his defense.
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