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Scientists Back Off of Ardi Claims (Evos give climate-hoaxers a run for their money...LOL!)
ICR News ^ | December 4, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 12/04/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

In May 2009, a remarkably well-preserved extinct primate, nicknamed “Ida,” was hailed as one of the most important fossil finds ever. It had features that some interpreted as a link between two primate body forms. At the time, ICR News suggested that its evolutionary significance was far overblown, predicting that the scientific consensus would offer retractions. Those retractions came three months later, confirming that the fossil―called Darwinius―was really just an extinct lemur variety...

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To: editor-surveyor
"Flush!"

Beats a pair!

301 posted on 12/04/2009 11:19:18 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: YHAOS

She is saying **all** of them are... kinda sounds like taliban thinking...


302 posted on 12/04/2009 11:19:28 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: ColdWater

You take exception to post 276?


303 posted on 12/04/2009 11:20:03 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: editor-surveyor
What if an entire book is left out, is that error?

I would say so. Either an error or a deliberate omission because they believed that the previous 'words of God' were not really the 'words of God' as determined by them.

304 posted on 12/04/2009 11:20:38 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Not important, I guess. Have a warm weekend.


305 posted on 12/04/2009 11:21:04 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for Dear Leader to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: ColdWater

The Apocrypha makes for some very good reading...
Especially all of the “corrections” to the Genesis record..


306 posted on 12/04/2009 11:23:04 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Since they have failed to find even a single transitional on land..."

You can't even define or specify what constitutes a transitional fossil. All you and the YEC's do is reject the entire fossil database as not being compliant to your unspecified standard.

307 posted on 12/04/2009 11:23:46 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: RoadGumby

You are mixing up what it means to be a Christian and what it means to believe in manmade Christianity.


308 posted on 12/04/2009 11:24:28 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater
You are revising history to fit your own current debate point.

Jefferson declared that he was a materialist and that he did not believe in the doctrines of Jesus. This, of course, led to his writing of the "The Exaltation of a Reasonable Deity: Thomas Jefferson’s BIBLE of Christianity", which is described as follows:

The Jefferson Bible begins with an account of Jesus’s birth without references to angels, genealogy, or prophecy. Miracles, references to the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, and Jesus' resurrection are also absent from the Jefferson Bible. (Erik Reece, "Jesus Without The Miracles - Thomas Jefferson's Bible and the Gospel of Thomas," Harper's Magazine, v. 311, n. 1867 (Dec. 1, 2005).

Jefferson concluded (given the virgin birth,the resurrection and all that crazy super natural stuff) that the Jesus of the Bible was an unreasonable deity. Therefore, Jefferson created his own super natural free and reasonable Jesus. Unfortunately, the Jesus that he created is not the Jesus of Bible, nor is it the Jesus of the Christian faith.

Jefferson's bible is not consistent with Christianity, nor is it Jesus honoring in any way.

309 posted on 12/04/2009 11:26:15 AM PST by pby
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To: ColdWater

You are scarcely worth time to type. You mock God, His Creation, the Bible, and tell me I AM MIXED UP?

Go ahead, wallow in your man-made evo theory. Science says it must be so.

Tell me, do you believe Christ died for your sins and rose again 3 days later?


310 posted on 12/04/2009 11:27:51 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: pby
Jefferson declared that he was a materialist and that he did not believe in the doctrines of Jesus.

Where did he declare that he did not believe in the doctrines of Jesus?

311 posted on 12/04/2009 11:28:52 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: metmom; tnlibertarian; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; ...
“Reading the article excerpt and the responses, it is obvious that this thread is a debate on church doctrine and a specific religious matter”

I guess a religious caucus thread would keep The Braying Bunch on the sidelines including the self proclaimed libertarian.

But then who would we laugh at?

312 posted on 12/04/2009 11:29:12 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: celmak

I’m no liberal there celmak, if that’s what you’re inferring.
Gub’mnt schools are a disaster. I’d say first and foremost by omission- not teaching what a Constitutional Republic is, and secondly by intent-teaching Alinsky-esque agendas full of collectivism and dependency and supposed governmental authority. Freedom isn’t free;It must be guarded. Rights come with responsibilities( to yourself,family, community, the degree is self-defined); Government’s only delegated authority is to ensure my life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness is protected.

“You and liberals do in government schools...”
I don’t understand the context of this statement.

Let’s start with teaching that as a basis for education and see what happens.


313 posted on 12/04/2009 11:29:25 AM PST by TooFarGone (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: RoadGumby
You mock God, His Creation, the Bible, and tell me I AM MIXED UP?

Me mixed up. You are the one that believes that an imperfect book written by man is the word of a perfect God.

314 posted on 12/04/2009 11:30:09 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: pby

Funny, that is exactly what happened at the Nicene canonization of the original bible... and you take **that** as absolute fact.


315 posted on 12/04/2009 11:31:10 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: ColdWater

Umm, when he wrote a Bible that had Jesus not as the Son of God? No virgin birth? No angels or miracles?

I guess that fits with you?


316 posted on 12/04/2009 11:32:11 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: TooFarGone

I’m aware that scientists don’t like the reasoning but that doesn’t change the fact that they were right.

Even though the process is in place to evaluate claims etc, either the announcements of the finds should be held back until a thorough examination is made, or the retraction should be by those who made the announcement and as publicly and widespread as that.

It doesn’t seem that the retractions get quite the coverage as the announcements, and all that does is lend itself to accusations of agenda and cover-ups.


317 posted on 12/04/2009 11:33:00 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ColdWater

And I suppose that that is the teaching of your catholic Church?


318 posted on 12/04/2009 11:33:27 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: xcamel

No. I asked you once before and you didn’t respond. I was just jogging your memory.

Care to answer and tell us what parts of the article are lies.


319 posted on 12/04/2009 11:34:13 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RoadGumby
Tell me, do you believe Christ died for your sins and rose again 3 days later?

Where in the bible does it say he rose again 3 days later?

320 posted on 12/04/2009 11:34:29 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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