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Scientists Back Off of Ardi Claims (Evos give climate-hoaxers a run for their money...LOL!)
ICR News ^ | December 4, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 12/04/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

In May 2009, a remarkably well-preserved extinct primate, nicknamed “Ida,” was hailed as one of the most important fossil finds ever. It had features that some interpreted as a link between two primate body forms. At the time, ICR News suggested that its evolutionary significance was far overblown, predicting that the scientific consensus would offer retractions. Those retractions came three months later, confirming that the fossil―called Darwinius―was really just an extinct lemur variety...

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To: RoadGumby
You, Cold Water, If you are Catholic (or not) and spreading doctrine counter to the Bbile, then you are an adversary AND of the adversary. Clear enough?

Clear enough. Anyone that does not believe exactly like you believe is an adversery. That includes Catholics, old earth creationists and heliocentrists.

161 posted on 12/04/2009 9:32:45 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: editor-surveyor

>> I see that you are one of them.

Your god is limited by your need to have a small, fallible god with all the foibles of a human born in sin.

God did it like he said he did. He is incapable of deception.<<

If God is incapable of deception, why did he bury Uranium in the ground with a 1/2 life of 4 Billion years? Why did he bury all of those darned fossils to confuse us, why did he put the earth in a Universe with stars and Galaxies that are further out that 6,000LY? Why did he leave plenty of Thermodynamic evidence that the planet many thousands of times older than 6,000 years only to tell us that it is 6,000 years old....?

Why is going to usher in the “End Times” before we humans even have a chance to spread out among the many other worlds he placed amongst the cosmos. If humans get to Mars and the Rapture occurs what happens to good Christian Astronauts on Mars? Did the Bible predict the moon landing? Can YOU predict the future based on the Bible?


162 posted on 12/04/2009 9:33:10 AM PST by GraceG
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To: ShadowAce

To them, that’s God.


163 posted on 12/04/2009 9:33:23 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: RoadGumby
(OT and NT for you word-splitters out there).

Which versions?

164 posted on 12/04/2009 9:33:53 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Buck W.

Christianity - Belief in God
Scientology - Belief you can BE a God

You have no basis.

But if you insist, trot down to your Church and draw that analogy


165 posted on 12/04/2009 9:33:57 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: tnlibertarian
Therefore, according to the guidelines posted by GGG, this thread doesn't belong in News/Activism, but Religion.

On the contrary, if you read the article, it's about the fossil that was classified as being a missing link not being such after all.

If it makes the news and is classified as science news but not religion when the discovery and conclusions were first made, then it should be classified as science news and not religion when the conclusions were changed.

I wasn't aware that changing the classification of a fossil was a religious decision. I thought that the scientists more closely examining the fossil were the ones to reclassify it.

I don't understand why the source of the article dealing with this fact is such an issue with the evolutionists.

166 posted on 12/04/2009 9:34:33 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RoadGumby
Christianity - Belief in God

Hmmm. That is all there is to Christianity?

167 posted on 12/04/2009 9:34:53 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: driftless2

According to creationists, fossils are simply stones that fell from the moon.

In recent years they’ve decided that fossils are the remains of animals from Noah’s flood that managed to die, then sort themselves in rock strata in an orderly fashion.

I think the moon stones story is more interesting but that’s just me.


168 posted on 12/04/2009 9:35:36 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: RoadGumby

Oh, so you’re contesting my basis for comparison—good! Now do the same for your own comparison between evolution and AGW. If you’re honest, you’ll come to the same conclusion.


169 posted on 12/04/2009 9:35:37 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: RoadGumby

Please do....c/p all you want. My not having a belief in your God is not the same as calling your God into question. Me not believing that Man walked the Earth with 100+ species of dinosaurs 4,352 years ago is not the same as me calling your God a liar, liar.

Run along now...


170 posted on 12/04/2009 9:36:07 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: ColdWater
"And the Catholics are your adversaries, right?"

No, lying agitators like you are though.

171 posted on 12/04/2009 9:36:18 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“There is no such thing as science without assumptions.”

Your liberal professors have failed you. You’ve picked up a Kantian fallacy somehow from someone, namely, the idea that all science is theory-laden.

Supposedly since all observation requires concepts, we can’t make objective observations because any observation is theory-laden. Since background assumptions are arbitrary, we arrive at theoretical egalitarianism— one theory is just as good as another. So the story goes.

This is just as silly as saying that if I need to join a union in order to make observations in the laboratory, my observations are union-laden. The problem is that we’re confusing temporal priority with epistemic priority. In other words, it isn’t that needing concepts to make observations is false. It is true, and trivially true.

I’m firmly committed to an inductivist philosophy of science— David Stove’s The Rationality of Induction is a great read, along with his Scientific Irrationalism.

Science is about evidence, not assumptions, not ideology, not class, not gender, or any other foolish postmodern lunacy professors peddle these days.


172 posted on 12/04/2009 9:36:59 AM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: ColdWater

Yes, trot out the heliocentrist tripe.

God describes Creation. Read it, believe it! Or don’t, believe you are being lied to, your call. But in any case, your fetish with jumping into threads that do not have beliefs you find credible just to spread lies does make you adversarial.


173 posted on 12/04/2009 9:37:29 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Buck W.

And you accept that as a version of the ‘Truth’?


174 posted on 12/04/2009 9:38:15 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: editor-surveyor

“No, lying agitators like you are though. “

That sounds like a statement from George Wallace directed at, well, you know...


175 posted on 12/04/2009 9:38:18 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
BREAKING NEWS........Unable to refute Darwin and Evolution, GGG now broadens his attack to include all of science. When asked for comment his trusty sidekick, Sancho Panza, muttered something about "loco".................
176 posted on 12/04/2009 9:38:50 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: RoadGumby

No.


177 posted on 12/04/2009 9:39:21 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Pretty crass response there, mate.


178 posted on 12/04/2009 9:39:29 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for Dear Leader to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: metmom
if you read the article, it's about the fossil that was classified as being a missing link not being such after all.

Okay, what does that have to do with religious freedom or someone attempting to deprive us of it?

179 posted on 12/04/2009 9:39:37 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: Buck W.

AGW and evolution are BOTH man-made theories based on non-fact.

That is not so for Christianity and Scientology.


180 posted on 12/04/2009 9:39:37 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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