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I'm pretty cheesed off that the question implies that him being punished at all is a given. The question SHOULD include a choice "should not have been punished"!
1 posted on 10/14/2009 11:26:57 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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The Eagle Scout is a better man than those judging him.


2 posted on 10/14/2009 11:31:23 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find! - I am Joe Wilson.)
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It would be helpful if you had included the explanation of why he was punished:

A 17-year-old Eagle Scout in upstate New York received a 20-day suspension for keeping a 2-inch pocketknife locked in a survival kit in his car. But, he teen's family wants their son reinstated so he can live out his dream of attending West Point - a dream now in peril because of the mar on his record.

3 posted on 10/14/2009 11:32:54 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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I agree. He didn’t get Eagle Scout by selling cupcakes. That rank means that he is an honorable, law-abiding adolescent. The thing is the school system has made his chances for West Point a complicated issue. The people that should be suspended are the administrators that passed this draconian sentence!


4 posted on 10/14/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by UAConservative (1,193 Days until Change I Can Really Believe In--January 20, 2013)
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What would life be like in America if everyone was allowed to hide a 2 inch pocketknife in their car? < /sarcasm>

Seriously, what other industry outside of 'education' is this brain dead, this incompetent, this immature and this insecure that they have to demonstrate their power in such a childish manner?

It's like a power-hungry pre-pubescent child who is looking for reasons to flex their authority. Teachers want to be respected, they want to be recognized as professionals; yet this is the ONLY industry where you see this level of extremely poor judgement. This makes the TSA seem like a highly functional, mature and professional organization.

I have grandkids younger than 5 that exercise better judgement. The Grandkids got caught holding a 'Dance Party' on Grandma's piano - but I would only guess that the Teachers wouldn't do this because they are too lazy to crawl up there in the first place.

5 posted on 10/14/2009 11:33:54 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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Impossible to freep. All 3 answers are wrong


7 posted on 10/14/2009 11:35:57 AM PDT by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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97% No.

And, I would add, I think they should have another poll asking whether we should tar and feather the school officials responsible for this travesty.

I would gladly vote “yes” to that. There are few things worse than what amounts to punishing a young man for celebrating goodness and virtue.

Aristotle would be horrified at such an educational practice.


8 posted on 10/14/2009 11:36:00 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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You are absolutely right.

More proof that common sense has left public schools.

10 posted on 10/14/2009 11:37:46 AM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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this is absurd. we’re supposed to trust a 17 year old with a pocket knife. so how come he has a driver’s license? what happens when he turns eighteen? i suppose the mythical god of nanistayet will chant the incantation and the boy will be blessed with Proper Behavior henceforth. i envision a collecyive, “behold, nanistayet says you can have knives, even though they are long, sharp, and pointy. until we take them away again . . .


11 posted on 10/14/2009 11:38:04 AM PDT by sig226 (My President was President of the week at the Norwegian Slough Academy.)
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Wth.

Yes - Means you agree
No - Could mean you think the punishment was too harsh, or heaven forbid not harsh enough, but still punishment needed.
I don’t know - left for the 1% of oxygen suckers that can’t decide anything.

Where is the “NO PUNISHMENT AT ALL” option?!


13 posted on 10/14/2009 11:39:26 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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Freep the HELL out of the stupid school district...

http://www.lansingburgh.org/lhs/


15 posted on 10/14/2009 11:39:35 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Realize one of the tennants of public (government) school: Train kids to believe that anything that could possibly be used as a weapon is evil and is to be avoided under severe penalty. It will be up to those kids to defend this country some day soon. All they will know is to avoid weapons and embrace diversity.


17 posted on 10/14/2009 11:42:11 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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Well heck, yesterday the story was about a 6 year old Cub Scout that took his little eating utensil kit to school maybe being sent to reform school, so based on the way these people think, the Eagle Scout probably should get life.


20 posted on 10/14/2009 11:44:10 AM PDT by bigbob
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Yes 2% (1,580 votes)
No 97% (63,283 votes)
I’m not sure. 1% (488 votes)
Total Votes: 65,351


26 posted on 10/14/2009 11:49:43 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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The boy could do much more damage with a condom...


27 posted on 10/14/2009 11:49:50 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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ping, update, sort of....


30 posted on 10/14/2009 11:52:39 AM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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You can do a lot of damage just poking your fingers in someone’s eyes or throat.

Maybe all students should leave their fingers at home.

Oh, and don’t get me started on shoe laces.


32 posted on 10/14/2009 11:53:59 AM PDT by paulycy (Why pay HIGHER TAXES for WORSE healthcare?)
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Thank goodness my youngest daughter was 5 yrs old in 1987 rather than now. She'd be in jail for sure in this day and age.

Our neighbor's day care kids (all older than 5) were in our yard tormenting (per my 5 yrs old's view) our newly walking/running kittens. She had asked them "many" times to leave them alone and go home, but they wouldn't. Her take on things was to go get her Cub Scout brother's pocketknife and threaten the kids (mind you the blade wasn't out).

The kids ran back to their day care house and promptly told the day care mom. Did the mom come to my house to tell me about it? No. She called the police.

I'm in my house unaware (because my daughter didn't tell me about the kids/kittens) and get a call (not a cruiser even!) from the police chief. As he was telling me about the complaint, I could tell he was trying to keep from laughing! He just asked I keep the pocketknife away from my dangerous (he laughed) 5 year old and that would be the end of that. He said he couldn't believe the mom wouldn't just come over and tell me about it. (That is a story in and of itself - when I asked her...she threw me outta her house).

Now a days...my 5 yr old would be picked up for sure and I probably would be charged with neglect. But then again...now a days a 5 yr old may actually stab someone with the knife. It's a sad day and age....

33 posted on 10/14/2009 11:54:22 AM PDT by zlala
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My grandson had the smallest Swiss Army Knife they make, used it to clean his nails or something, and forgot he had it in his pocket. Someone saw it outlined in his hip pocket, and told a teacher.

He was sentenced, in court, to "alternative education". This consists of sitting in a room full of juvenile trouble makers all day, for over a month, I don't recall exactly. It will stay on his record until he is 18, they say, but I wonder if these things ever disappear from the records.

Gerry is a great kid, they had no business dragging him through this crap.

Could it be that some kids are not politically correct?


39 posted on 10/14/2009 12:02:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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We used to take our shotguns to school so we could go hunting after school. An English teacher was making a custom stock for his M1 carbine in the shop, and brought the gun into class to show us. Glad I’m not a kid now.


40 posted on 10/14/2009 12:03:06 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ctdonath2; jimfree; justlurking; UAConservative; stars & stripes forever; DallasDeb; sig226; ...

Matthew Whalen, The Eagle Scout AND Soldier:

He’s an Eagle Scout, on the honor roll, taking Advanced Placement classes, and never been in trouble with the law. He’s received commendations from the City of Troy and the Boy Scouts of America for saving a woman’s life, and this past summer, he completed Army basic training.

All of it was accomplished before the age of 17.


41 posted on 10/14/2009 12:04:26 PM PDT by panaxanax (At what point will the American people finally say "NO MORE!!"?)
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