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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: MHGinTN
Is the testimony of Juan’s mother of no consequence? She was sworn in and tesitifed before leaky Leahy’s committee!

Sworn congressional testimony.

Hmmmm. By that standard nicotine is not addictive. A whole bunch of Big Tobacco execs told us so, under oath.

Other than that, my logic could still be faulty...

7,421 posted on 08/06/2009 11:29:53 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 197 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: BP2

Maybe a search for a marriage certificate in Kenya ???

And would Stanley Ann need any documents from the local US Embassy ???

What about documents to put baby Obama on her passport ???

Or was baby Obama on Daddy’s passport as a Kenyan ???

Was Stanly Ann on Obama Srs passport as his wife ???


7,422 posted on 08/06/2009 11:33:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 7thgen

Welcome to FR. Nice first post.

Charm, wit and levity
will win you in the start
but in the end it’s brevity
that keeps the public’s heart


7,423 posted on 08/06/2009 11:33:47 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 197 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Consider what it will mean if provenance shows the document comes from 1964, BUT it is in fact a fake from that era! What was it invented to cover up, all the way back in 1964?


7,424 posted on 08/06/2009 11:36:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Houghton M.

You’re missing something.


7,425 posted on 08/06/2009 11:38:22 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: MHGinTN

See this and stop wasting time:

http://www.upload.mn/view/gs5jgyylzx17ozzdc1s3.jpg&random=normal


7,426 posted on 08/06/2009 11:39:12 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Vendome

I certainly don’t expect you to read all these articles, but just reading the headlines will give you a good idea who this mango tree lawyer is:

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=C0BCA824-18FE-70B2-A87E1A83AE555908

http://www.panamanewsbriefs.com/?p=4159

http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/GregoryCraig.htm

http://www.panamanewsbriefs.com/?p=4159

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124935604510503669.html

http://www.abajournal.com/news/white_house_denies_report_that_counsel_greg_craig_may_be_on_his_way_out/

http://atlanticwire.theatlantic.com/read-more.php?id=613


7,427 posted on 08/06/2009 11:39:59 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: JewishRighter

Why do you even waste time with us ‘birthers’? What the poo does your smarmy post have to do with the issues being discussed? When did Jim Thompson appoint you to shut up the ‘birthers’? LOL


7,428 posted on 08/06/2009 11:41:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: JewishRighter; All

Here is the original Kenya fraud apparently perpetrated on Orly Taitz and the rest of us. Not the upload date is 8/4, several days after it first emerged in her Court filing.

This same site has the pictures of the doc with the typewriter, the stationary used, the quilt, the coin used to fake out the raised seal.

Now, I wish we could track down the source of the fraud.


7,429 posted on 08/06/2009 11:44:37 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Houghton M.

The Bomford doc doesn’t match anything real in Australia.

Its just a hoax.


7,430 posted on 08/06/2009 11:47:03 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

thanks for the links and I will indeed read them.


7,431 posted on 08/06/2009 11:47:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MHGinTN

What’s your problem? What the hell is smarmy about my post? I posted a document that shows this a waste of time without the slightest bit of comment denegrating to “birthers”. Believe me, I am dissappointed that the information did not prove true. But why you choose to snap at me can only be a poor reflection on you.

And LOL? You are in the habit of laughing at your own offensive remarks?

If you had not noticed, this thread is titled “Is this really it? (re: possible Obama’s Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz)”. My post is directly on point.


7,432 posted on 08/06/2009 11:48:51 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter; All

Ooops. Left out the link:

http://www.upload.mn/view/5ro4tlhvqps1xm7v65lw.jpg&random=normal


7,433 posted on 08/06/2009 11:49:59 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: LucyT
Comparison with similar certificates suggests fakery, WND probe reveals NEW YORK – The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND’s investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.

Observe that the copy of the BC they are dealing with is the one that had been hacked on site--that is, the initials were changed to soap from the real person's initials; and the real person is known from a picture taken in Uganda at some other date.

Most of these comments don't address the actual certificate but are "would have been" comments. Many of them result from circumstances in the Coastal Province area in the late 1963--early 1964 period.

On one hand, I am now reluctant to post sources because every time I do, and then go back to use it again somewhere else, the source has been erased or modified. But I can't be the only person here who has done research on this issue about Republic of Kenya; State or Province or whatever.

The Coastal region was a province of Zanzibar. In October of 1963, at the instigation of the Brits, Zanzibar ceded the province to "the Republic of Kenya" which of course did not exist at that time. Immediately, all the institutions in the area changed their name to Republic of Kenya and that was done, according to local news, in part because there was concern that the Brits or Zanzibar might change the deal.

It appears that the name of the hospital where Obama was born was also changed at that date from "Coast Provincial General Hospital" to "Coast General Hospital"--I can't confirm the date on which that happened but that is about the time the name change starts being reflected.

And, late 63 and early 64 is a period in which administrative changes were being reflected by all of the public agencies in the area--so who knows exactly what forms were in use on what date.

It is in fact, only a Birth Certificate--better than the Hawaii COLB in this respect: The Hawaii COLB was not a certificate of facts relating to the birth of the individual but only of a statement by a person with knowledge; the Kenya Certificate certifies the ordinary agency records.

Obviously, a better document would be a certified copy of the registry which would reflect additional information including the doctor and other data. There is some indication that such a document exists and has been in some limited circulation in DC since early last year. I don't have a copy.

It wouldn't surprise anybody to learn that in fact, the original has been removed from the registry. On the other hand, if secondary data is all that is available, it may turn out to be reliable best evidence.

Given the fact that this particular document has a historical provenience, I tend to believe it is probably real.

7,434 posted on 08/06/2009 11:54:34 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: JewishRighter

Damn you’re gullible! (or part of the deception, which is it?)

The coin thing was disproven Sunday - old hat.

Lots of people have typewriters and quilts, and some even have cameras!

M O R O N !


7,435 posted on 08/06/2009 11:56:04 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Houghton M.

If you were married in Reno, Nevada and are now living in Calif. Don’t you think the judge there in Calif would recognize the marriage in Nevada.Same principal with Kenya being the place the marriage took place. The divorce is being sought in Calif, Hawaii, or Nevada where legal residence has been established.In other words, the judge could care less where you got hitched.


7,436 posted on 08/06/2009 12:02:03 PM PDT by Author2
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To: Cymraeg
I am speaking as a lawyer with 40 years of experience and who tried hundreds of divorces...

You Birthers are a disgrace to America.

And the reputation of lawyers rank between skunks and stink bugs.

7,438 posted on 08/06/2009 12:02:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: editor-surveyor

Where was this proven wrong? And how?

I fail to see why you are so obnoxious about it. What makes the pictures at that site so obviously part of the deception?


7,440 posted on 08/06/2009 12:04:23 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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