Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
I am a person with vast experience in the so-called developing world. I have worked in the United States only four years out of my adult life.
I know the bureaucratic hapits and procedures for many countries and have observed how certain common features of office procedures were bequeathed by the Brits on their former colonies. They did NOT use staples. Staples were still rare and not used in Government offices until well into the 1990s to my personal knowledge, and I suspect still.
Please take my statement on this as determinative. I know what I am talking about, or I wouldn’t say it.
It has the same information like my Danish Long Form Birth Certificate!!!
It is more likely that changes in parentage documents are in Hawaii’s files than that there is a long form BC in there. When Stanley Ann got divorced from Barack, she took back her name Dunham, and perhaps changes Barry’s name to Dunham. The, when Lolo adopted him before moving to Indonesia, his name was changed to Barry Soetoro. I’m wondering when he made legal change to Barack Obama?
This is probably fake.
If it's not, I'm sure the powers that be have contingencies in mind. A taste of civil unrest for a week or so might entice people to "all get along."
A court of law couldn't convict OJ Simpson.
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Are you sure of that meaning in kenya? or the UK?
Is there a source please?
Sure there is. The English language and basic observation.
Seriously, if you look carefully at the document, it doesn't have all of the pertinent details that a birth certificate has. Simple comparison of this document to the Hawaiian COLB reveals some similarities.
Basically, they both contain the most basic birth information, but fall short of complete documentation, such as name of doctor, baby's weight, exact time of birth, attending nurses or physicians, signatures, parents full addresses, etc.
That's all I was attempting to indicate.
Her name in the phone books was Mrs Ann Obama not Mr and Mrs
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/07/logical-obama-timeline.html
See my post 4641.
See my post 4641.
By whom???
Are y’all still pushing that ‘Hawaiian officials are incompetent’ line, too, besides smearing Polarik in a team effort?
But according to Washington university records, she used Dunham after she was “married”. (if she ever was that is) Why not use “Obama” at Washington U?
Ahh.
I’ve flown to Africa (Tanzania) several times. The only other scheduled route is through Australia, a long, long way around.
Each time, I’ve had to stop and change flights in London.
What we don't know is whether a forgery would be more or less likely to have staple holes than an authentic 45 year old BC.
Also, have staples always had the same width? Can we say anything about the era in which it was stapled from the staple width?
Yes,...that bugs the hell out of me...
thanks, that could still leave the possibility of something stapled to it later such as by an attorney in the states?
Let's just hope that enough comparisons can been gathered without the help of the Kenyan government and an audit trail can be examined. At this point, Obama's parents divorce records should be unsealed. If it was good enough for Blair Hull and Jack Ryan it's good enough for Obama.
I think the assumptions that were made were that it was, back in 1964, created because of the divorce case. It was requested by Obama’s mom’s lawyer because the lawyer assumed that there was a possibility that Obama’s dad might contest the divorce. As it turned out, Obama’s dad didn’t contest the divorce.
Anyway, to be safe, Obama’s mom’s lawyer requested the document. He probably opened it up, looked at it and put it back in the envelope. He probably put the envelope in a folder, the folder in an expanding folder (maybe?) and the folder in a file cabinet. After a while, the old files were placed in a box and put in storage, somewhere else, where they sat for many years.
How they were found? More difficult. Someone looking for Obama documents found out who the lawyer was for Obama’s mom, and guessed that firm would still have old files somewhere. They went to the warehouse and looked through the boxes of files and found the doc.
Maybe something like that.
Maybe some guys in a law office were sitting around chatting about politics when the subject came up about birthers. And then one of the older guys in the firm recalled something about a Dunham case way back in the day.
I think it’s very possible that the case was forgotten at the law firm for years. It’s very possible that no one who worked at the firm in 1964 is working at the law firm now in 2009. But the files don’t necessarily disappear.
I had no problem in getting all the information!!
I also sent her 50 bucks yesterday, she needs money from us!!!
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