Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[PA Engineer]

There was a post here a few days ago from a leftist blog that was pulled. They outed "polarick", supposedly along with his technical background. There claim is that he is not what he appears. I don't think "polarick" has answered these charges.

"polarick's" claims today on this thread are a parroting of those on the beginning of another thread. I would hope that he reads this entire thread before coming to the same conclusions of the veracity of this document.

Whether or not his work on the original COLB is accurate, the long form is the only document that matters. The COLB (Certificate of Live Birth) is not a long form certificate and does not prove he was born in Hawaii. We know absolutely nothing about Obama's past. With each passing day the scrubbing continues. I don't think polarick is his actual screen name and I can't remember at this time the actual spelling to ping him. My apologies. I have read every post today and have concluded there is no deal stopper yet. This may be a real document or it may not be. The criticisms have all been shot down.

I just wish the goalposts for the end of this thread would stop so I could finish it.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

And see the link on this thread at post #4579...

[MHGinTN]

A staple may have been sent through it years after it became a document, like maybe when Barack Obama was packing his papers to return to Kenya and strapled together the exhibits from his divorce preceedings. The document might not have been the one on top where the staple went thorugh first layer, or even the last page where the staple would curl back against the last page.

[Kevmo]

when someone swear to uphold the Constitution and is really trampling the Constitution, that is not a legal defense. Just like if someone swears to tell the truth under Oath and then perjures himself, he/she is guilty of perjury.
***Sure. And we nailed Clintoon with that perjury thing when we had irrefutable evidence. Congress wouldn’t do it when the evidence was that strong, they certainly won’t do it when it’s this weak. It was the job of the SCOTUS and they failed us.

[STARWISE]

FYI .. this at post #2503 re the bcert auction -

Guess what ... he’s baaaack ..........

http://theautonomist.com/atnmst/bo_bc_files/obamma_bc_ebay.html

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Sorry, it’s the eBay auction that expired July 7. My error... didn’t look at the date and url.

[El Gato]

The United States wasn’t an official Nation till 1778 when the Constitution was ratified.

The Constitution was ratified in 1788, although it had been passed by the Convention and sent to the states in 1787, but the nation was still called the United States of America under the old Articles of Confederation.

In fact past the preamble, the first Article read:

ARTICLE I. The style of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of America." It was a 1781 document.

[machogirl]

Supposedly, the only time she abandoned Barry was Indonesia. Where were Gramps and Grandma while she was in Washington? They were in Hawaii, right. I have never read that Ann gave birth to Barry and three weeks later gave him to her parents to raise. Madelyn Dunham was working in the bank. Suppose gramps could have bottle fed. But who in their right mind would abandon their kid, after carrying him for 9 months, and run off thousands of miles away to go to school. She was supposedly married at that time. Supposedly at 6 months pregnant, although Michelle said that she was single. Obama Sr., IMHO, is not his bio-father. Barry does look like Ann along the jawline. Doesn’t look like Barack Sr. IMHO

[WOSG]

talking behind my back? putz.

my only agenda is truth.

[Windflier]

I’ve been waiting with bated breath.

Well, since rejoining the thread, I've noticed a few stand-out skeptics beating the drum for the after-birthers. That's not to say that they're all suspect, though. I think a couple of them have genuine concerns.

[sonic109]

No document produced in Kenya in 1964 would have staple holes.
How do you know that ?

[RegulatorCountry]

I do.

[John Valentine]

"polarick's" claims today on this thread are a parroting of those on the beginning of another thread. I would hope that he reads this entire thread before coming to the same conclusions of the veracity of this document.

Polarik made NO claims on this thread today. I will quote from a private communication I have from him on this issue:

"I’m only reporting what was the consensus opinion."

and

"As for me, I cannot make a judgement on any document without a comparable document with which to compare. It does not have to be THE document itself, just one like it."

He was NOT endorsing or claiming anything.

[Fred Nerks]

And why would you assume that letter was authentic?

[bgill]

Can’t view it without loging in.

[WOSG]

Alinsky: “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

Political equivalent of Jujitsu.

[rolling_stone]

Ok, that was my first thought. In California older Drivers Licenses were sent out stapled to a piece of paper. When forgers (drinking age) tried to copy them they usually screwed up and had two black dots for the staple but no holes...I was unaware of straight pins maybe by 1964 they got staples? I would like to measure them but would need to know the paper size so if anyone has their BC let us know size !

[Berlin_Freeper]

The proof is Obama fails to produce his birth certificate.

That's all the proof I need.

[rolling_stone]

And why would you assume that letter was authentic?

because their is a phone number and address that one could easily use to verify it-call them tommorrow or not.

[PA Engineer]

Great work.

[Fred Nerks]

I think you are on the right track. There were seven pages of FOI pages of that divorce document. The pages were numbered (by hand) from One to Twelve.

The remainder (five) would have been ID documents IMO.