(Muslims & violence) Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed

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[Righting]

Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed... Police sealed off streets in parts of the provincial capital, Urumqi, after discord between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into violence. Witnesses reported a new, smaller protest Monday in a second city, Kashgar.

[Zhang Fei]

How about you show some pictures of the people that the Islamic separatists killed? Just like Muslims do everywhere else.

Uighurs are not Islamic separatists, any more than the Poles were Catholic separatists when they seceded from Russia after WWI. The reality is that Caucasian Uighurs and Mongoloid Chinese are of different races and nationalities. Just because Uighurs are Muslim does not mean that the atrocities of Chinese colonialists are to be indulged, and that East Turkistan does not deserve to be independent. The Uighurs are not our enemy. I don't think any of the Turkic nations (most of Central Asia's stans) is. They're just not wired that way.

[rogue yam]

if they want to live in an Islamic stated let them move to one.

The Uighurs live where they've aways lived. It is the Han who have invaded them.

[Onelifetogive]

Commies fighting Muzzies...Who to root for???

[rogue yam]

The Chinese tell a lot of lies.

[Islaminaction]

“Uighurs are not Islamic separatists”

Actually that is exactly what they are. All Islamic separatists/sharia loving Muslims are our enemies.

How about any group who wants independence gets it? Lets just break up countries to please everyone. Good thinking.

[Islaminaction]

They admit that they want their own Islamic state. Are the Uigurs themselves lying? Was it a lie when they blew up buses?

[Islaminaction]

So what? That does not mean they deserve their own state.

China is not an Islamic country.

[ETL]

Just because Uighurs are Muslim does not mean that the atrocities of Chinese colonialists are to be indulged

Exactly. We are not at war with Muslims. We are at war with radical jihadists. The same jihadists who Russia, China, Chavez and the commie left are allied with.

[Blackacre]

Ummmm...that is creating their own Islamic state.

Even if the Uighurs got their own state, why would that be a bad thing? They were forcefully assimilated into China.

Will you be so supportive when the Muslims in Dearborn Mich. want the same?

We didn't conquer Dearborn and try to wipe out the local language, culture and religion. These are two totally different situations.

Muslims are playing the same victim card in Russia, Thailand, the Philippines etc. It is all a con to create Islamic states within. Except in the case of Russia, none of those Muslims were conquered by the country in question. Again, different situations.

And though I don't have any sympathy for the actions of Chechen terrorists groups, I am not a fan of Russian imperialism that has forced various peoples to live under the thumb of Moscow. Or do you think the Latvians shouldn't have been allowed their independence?

[Blackacre]

They are IN China, it is NOT their land. It is not Islamic land.

It is land conquered by China. That's like saying The Ukraine was not Ukrainian land while it was part of the Soviet Union.

What's your view of Tibet? Are the Tibetans evil too, for wanting their independence from Beijing?

[Blackacre]

Why are you carrying water for the Chinese Communists and buying their propaganda? This is a country that considers the Dalai Lama to be a terrorist.

[Islaminaction]

Of course it would be a bad thing. It is emboldens sharia loving Muslims across the world.

Muslims are pushing for Islamic states across the world. No one should cater to them at all.

We are talking about the worldwide threat of Islam, not Latvians.

[MestaMachine]

Wright was a Black Muslim before he became a black....whatever it is he calls himself now. Turned to fake Christianity and built his own church to propagandize Black Christians with Marxist Black Liberation Theology which is hand in glove with Calypso Louie’s agenda. He is no more and no less than a follower of Ejijah Mohammad. Regardless of what his public personna is, he is still first and foremost a muslim. And so is obama.
A BORN muslim is always a muslim and obama is one of those who is permitted to pretend to be something else, (lie,) while remaining a true believer at heart. Taquiyya. As long as it advances islam in the world.

[ETL]

The Chinese tell a lot of lies.

As do the Russians. They are masters at the complex game of chess, while most of us, unfortunately, suck horribly at checkers. It is so simple for them to deceive us. In fact, we have quite a few misguided FReepers who actually admire Putin!

[Islaminaction]

I am not buying their “propaganda”, I have been studying the issue of Islam very closely for over 6 years now. They are telling the truth. But here you are buying the same Islamic propaganda that is used across the world. “We are oppressed, we need our own state....”

[Zhang Fei]

How about any group who wants independence gets it? Lets just break up countries to please everyone. Good thinking.

Actually, that's been happening with colonial empires all through the 20th century. Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and Armenia are just some of the examples in Europe. In East Asia alone, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Burma and Singapore are all countries that became independent in the 20th century. The one common thread in the independence of these countries, East and West, is that they were set free by Western countries that were either uninterested in ruling them or not prepared to use exterminationist policies to quell revolts. The Chinese have no scruples in either regard.

[Blackacre]

Of course it would be a bad thing. It is emboldens sharia loving Muslims across the world.

The Uighurs are not some Sharia-loving Turkic Talibanites. You really need to educate yourself about the situation, rather than just buying the ChiCom propaganda hook, line and sinker.

Muslims are pushing for Islamic states across the world. No one should cater to them at all.

Uighurs are different from Saudis, the Taliban and Iran.

We are talking about the worldwide threat of Islam, not Latvians.

The Uighurs are not part of that threat.

[Islaminaction]

The only thing that people admire about him is that he has a set....unlike our politicians.

[ETL]

Wright was a Black Muslim before he became a black....whatever it is he calls himself now. Turned to fake Christianity and built his own church to propagandize Black Christians with Marxist Black Liberation Theology which is hand in glove with Calypso Louie’s agenda.

News flash! Farrakhan's "Nation Of Islam" is a Black Liberation, revolutionary communist front movement just like reverend Wright's...

"...link the struggle here with Africa and the Caribbean, Central and South America."

Millions More Movement rally
Washington D.C., October 15, 2005
Louis Farrakhan speech

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html
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From Louis Farrakhan's "Nation Of Islam" website, FinalCall.com...
Re: Millions More Movement rally, Oct 15, 2005:

Unity generates power to change reality
By the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan

"The time has never been more ripe for a strategic relationship between the Black, Brown, Native American and the poor of this nation and the world."

"We need a Ministry of Defense. Our young men are born soldiers, but they are in the wrong war. They are fighting a war in the streets of America against each other, or they are fighting an unjust war overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need to bring our boys home and put them into the Ministry of Defense, so we can defend our communities, rather than destroy our communities.

We need a Ministry of Art and Culture. We applaud the hip hop community, the leaders of young people all over the world, but I want the young generation of artists to know there is a bigger purpose for art and culture than popping our fingers and shaking our backsides. Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform. Many of them were victims of opium, drugs and prostitution, like we are. But Mao Tse Tung went to the cultural community and they accepted his idea. Then, through song, dance, poetry, drama, documentaries, movies and books, the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people. China became a world power on the base of culture and the artistic community. If we had a Ministry of Art and Culture in every city, [we'd] create this movement [in the U.S.], we could say to our young people, “What is the idea of the Time and are you reflecting that idea in your songs, dance and music?

We need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce. Do you think that a Millions More Movement should not be involved in the development of Africa, the Caribbean and Central America? ... we need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce that can link the struggle here with Africa and the Caribbean, Central and South America.

Source: FinalCall.com
(note: this is Farrakhan's own "Nation Of Islam" website. However, the original page has 'mysteriously' been removed and it exists only in this linked cache form, thus the looong url -etl):
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22We+need+a+Ministry+of+Defense.+Our+young+men+are+born+soldiers%2C+but+they+are+in+the+wrong+war.%22%22mao%22&fr=moz2&u=www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4328.shtml&w=%22we+need+a+ministry+of+defense+our+young+men+are+born+soldiers+but+they+are+in+the+wrong+war%22+mao&d=A4xrG52uSSxU&icp=1&.intl=us
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Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says
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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/
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Excerpt from The American Thinker
Article: Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
May 28, 2008

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation': "...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
--Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" [i.e. 'reverend Wright's thing] and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html
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From the Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam website, FinalCall.com...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml
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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):

http://web.archive.org/web/20060717050055/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html
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That's Michelle Obama with Mrs. Farrakhan. Mrs. Farrakhan is at center bottom wearing white -etl
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/03/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhans-wife-together-in-photo/

Or,
http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/03/michelle-pictured-together-with-wife-of-louis-farrakhan/

Original piece from Jet Magazine itself available (apparently) with a free trial subscription to HighBeam Research:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-120033408.html

From: Jet [Magazine] | Date: July 26, 2004 | Author: | 700+ words
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition holds 33rd annual conference in Chicago.(National Report)
"Read the rest of this article with a FREE trial. Sign up below..."
https://www.highbeam.com/reg/reg1.aspx?full=yes&origurl=/doc/1G1-120033408.html
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Farrakhan hails Obama as 'hope of entire world'
February 25, 2008

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

Video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him (Farrakhan) call Obama "The Messiah" And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farrakhan+messiah+obama&aq=0&oq=Farrakhan+messiah

[Islaminaction]

Wow.....they are Islamic separatists. They ADMIT it. lol!

I have over 6 years of study on the issue and you?

Funny thing is that Robert Spencer agrees with me, or do you know more than him also?

Right it is all just a coincidence that they attack non-Muslims, blow up buses and riot while to create an Islamic state within China.....