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Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth (first T. rex, then another T. rex, now this!)
ICR ^ | May 12, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

Recently-discovered dinosaur soft tissues, and even blood cells, represent some of the biggest hurdles for long-age evolutionary belief. Soft tissue was found in the femur of a large Tyrannosaurus rex about a decade ago, and more was discovered in another T. rex a few years later. And recently, soft tissues with proteins were found in a hadrosaur from Montana...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; dinosaur; dinosaurs; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; maryschweitzer; notasciencetopic; propellerbeanie; science
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To: tpanther

I really have a hard time with you, GGG, and the rest of the Biblical literalists using circular reasoning as a hammer against anyone.

The Bible is God’s inerrant word. (This is taken as a fact, one of those items that cannot be challenged).

The Bible says God created the world in 6 literal days.

Any questions about the above are sourced back to the Bible, perhaps to other verses which support the Genesis account. So the Bible is being used to support other statements made in the Bible.

Seems like the essence of circularity to me.


141 posted on 05/13/2009 9:07:27 AM PDT by dmz
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To: 2111USMC

Maybe they came from the Hollow Earth. Didn’t Hitler escape to that world? ;0)


142 posted on 05/13/2009 9:08:09 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: tpanther
And what kind of practical joker God explains things but really didn’t mean them after all?

I don't think that such is the case at all. Read Schroeder's book (get it from the library or borrow it from someone if you don't have the money or don't want to give him any). He explains that the entire account of the Creation is 31 lines near the very beginning of Genesis. Compare that with tens or hundreds of thousands of volumes of textbooks on the multitude of different areas of knowledge that touch upon Creation that exist, to say nothing of what is on the Internet. How can anyone (or Anyone) explain what takes us a library to explain (and rather incompletely and somewhat inaccurately, at that) in 31 lines...to people that lived 3,300 years ago??? Can't be done - hence the allegories. The truth is there - again, see Schroeder's book, he explains it very well - but not in the detail and complexity that is necessary for complete understanding (which, by the way, I believe to be beyond the capacity of any human being).

He explained he made human beings just below the angels, it seems to me we’re not hairless apes, rather created in His image and there’s a steep drop-off between humans and apes, (nevermind angels and humans!)

My "hairless apes" comment was sarcasm. As for Mankind being just below the angels, it is true - at least potentially so. Here's the Reader's Digest version (at least according to Jewish theology, as I understand it): Angels are perfect beings - they were created by G-d as a tool, each to perform one particular task. Single purpose robots, essentially (though obviously different). They are created to obey, to not question, to never have any challenge to their faith, because they have no Free Will. We, OTOH, have lots of doubts and have Free Will. Where we are potentially above the angels is in our capacity to be tempted by doubt to give into our base nature, and to rise above that. When we do so, then we are above the angels. Oh, and such is not easy (nor meant to be so): we are all tested, constantly, and the Test Maker knows our weaknesses and our capabilities better than we do ourselves. If those temptations weren't specifically tailored for each of us, then some would never pass the test, and some would always pass it - all based on their nature as given to them by G-d. Nope, it simply isn't that easy. Essentially, G-d grades on a curve, and each person has their own curve.

143 posted on 05/13/2009 9:08:09 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for posting this. I find this stuff to be fascinating.


144 posted on 05/13/2009 9:12:56 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: valkyry1
Your way overstretched analogy? I dont know that I can demonstrate to you what is obvious to others.

I expected as much.

145 posted on 05/13/2009 9:53:54 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

‘I read it. It’s a specious collection of quasi-scientfic pap used as a vehicle to repetitively reinforce the message that creationism is right and everything else is wrong.
I don’t doubt there’s “lots more where that came from”.’
Hmmm same feeling I get when reading evolution doc.

‘If it was good, sound reasoning and data you’d only need one.’
So then evolution could have stop producing doc w/ Origin of the Species?

‘If it’s psycological warfare, then you have to have constant repetitive reinforcement.’
interesting concepts...

Hello pot this is kettle - what color did you say I am?


146 posted on 05/13/2009 10:35:05 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Ancesthntr

No curve really - just whether or not you sincerely ask Jesus to be your Lord and Saviour.


147 posted on 05/13/2009 10:36:52 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: dmz

Oh you mean that you can actually trust the Bible?

Let’s see, just the ‘tip of the iceberg’ here, but have you heard about how archeological finds related to the Bible are 100% accurate?

Don’t have time to give you more details now but surely you are also somewhat familiar with prophecy? See Psalm 22 regarding Christ on the cross written centuries before his birth.


148 posted on 05/13/2009 10:40:25 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels
Hello pot this is kettle - what color did you say I am?

The standard accusations of "projection" have already been made.

149 posted on 05/13/2009 10:48:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BrandtMichaels
Let’s see, just the ‘tip of the iceberg’ here, but have you heard about how archeological finds related to the Bible are 100% accurate?

What does this sentence mean?

150 posted on 05/13/2009 12:02:36 PM PDT by GunRunner
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bkmk


151 posted on 05/13/2009 12:35:17 PM PDT by csense
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To: ConservativeDude

I’m a surveyor.

I’ve on several occasions had to map the location of fossils found during deep excavations in subdivisions under construction. Most of the time its just fossilized bones, but in the Antioch area, the mammoths often have skin and other tissue remaining on the lower leg bones.

The “ologists” as the contractor’s superintendant on one job called them, don’t seem very interested in the mammoths, and particularly the ones with skin remaining.


152 posted on 05/13/2009 1:51:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: varmintman
Hi, Ted. Still watching Amos & Andy?
153 posted on 05/13/2009 1:55:04 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: tacticalogic

Are you trying to prove yourself a complete idiot?

The proportional relatiopnship of the ages of rocks doesn’t change, regardless of where they are on the age scale.

Its depressing to read the thrashing of people in denial.


154 posted on 05/13/2009 1:58:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: dmz
I think you are confusing the scientists and those media figures discussing their work.

I am talking of both. Scientists do not correct the misconceptions in the press. And even scientists talk as if their observations are proving some theory. Scientists are part of the problem.

155 posted on 05/13/2009 2:07:23 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: editor-surveyor
The proportional relatiopnship of the ages of rocks doesn’t change, regardless of where they are on the age scale.

According to who? By YEC theory, all sedimentary rock was formed during the Noachian flood. There is no proportinal age difference to speak of among any of the sedimentary rock formations.

By their scale, that rock is 4,000 years old, and even the oldest non-sedimentary rock is only about 1.5 times that old.

That doesn't line up proportinally with conventional geology at all.

156 posted on 05/13/2009 2:32:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Success! You’ve proven yourself an idiot. (and a troll)


157 posted on 05/13/2009 2:46:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
Success! You’ve proven yourself an idiot. (and a troll)

You've proven youself unable to discuss the topic without resorting to insults and personal attacks.

158 posted on 05/13/2009 2:57:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You didn’t wish to discuss the nonsequitur topic; you only wished to add foolish and ignorant noise to the thread to deflect its purpose.

That’s all you really ever do.


159 posted on 05/13/2009 3:02:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: tacticalogic

In actuality, I see you’re taking a beating today.


160 posted on 05/13/2009 3:10:38 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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