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To: tpanther
And what kind of practical joker God explains things but really didn’t mean them after all?

I don't think that such is the case at all. Read Schroeder's book (get it from the library or borrow it from someone if you don't have the money or don't want to give him any). He explains that the entire account of the Creation is 31 lines near the very beginning of Genesis. Compare that with tens or hundreds of thousands of volumes of textbooks on the multitude of different areas of knowledge that touch upon Creation that exist, to say nothing of what is on the Internet. How can anyone (or Anyone) explain what takes us a library to explain (and rather incompletely and somewhat inaccurately, at that) in 31 lines...to people that lived 3,300 years ago??? Can't be done - hence the allegories. The truth is there - again, see Schroeder's book, he explains it very well - but not in the detail and complexity that is necessary for complete understanding (which, by the way, I believe to be beyond the capacity of any human being).

He explained he made human beings just below the angels, it seems to me we’re not hairless apes, rather created in His image and there’s a steep drop-off between humans and apes, (nevermind angels and humans!)

My "hairless apes" comment was sarcasm. As for Mankind being just below the angels, it is true - at least potentially so. Here's the Reader's Digest version (at least according to Jewish theology, as I understand it): Angels are perfect beings - they were created by G-d as a tool, each to perform one particular task. Single purpose robots, essentially (though obviously different). They are created to obey, to not question, to never have any challenge to their faith, because they have no Free Will. We, OTOH, have lots of doubts and have Free Will. Where we are potentially above the angels is in our capacity to be tempted by doubt to give into our base nature, and to rise above that. When we do so, then we are above the angels. Oh, and such is not easy (nor meant to be so): we are all tested, constantly, and the Test Maker knows our weaknesses and our capabilities better than we do ourselves. If those temptations weren't specifically tailored for each of us, then some would never pass the test, and some would always pass it - all based on their nature as given to them by G-d. Nope, it simply isn't that easy. Essentially, G-d grades on a curve, and each person has their own curve.

143 posted on 05/13/2009 9:08:09 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Ancesthntr

No curve really - just whether or not you sincerely ask Jesus to be your Lord and Saviour.


147 posted on 05/13/2009 10:36:52 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Ancesthntr

No thanks, I’ll stick with God and btw, Satan was a fallen angel, so it stands to reason he and all his cohorts had free will.


165 posted on 05/13/2009 3:24:22 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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