Posted on 03/26/2009 7:10:06 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
I received this in an email from the folks at World Net Daily. While it was a solicitation to participate and donate for a fax campaign to the MSM, I found it to be an excellent summary of the issue. I have deleted all the solicitations:
Is the biggest political crime in American history taking place right before our eyes? Is the man in the White House INELIGIBLE, according to the Constitution, to sit in the Oval Office... is he a FRAUD... a USURPER?
Barack Hussein Obama could put the issue to rest right now by simply releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
But he WON'T release his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. In fact, he is actively RESISTING efforts to compel him to release his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
He's dug in his heels. He has teams of lawyers fighting efforts to get him to release his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, while his underlings look down their noses at the American people and call these legitimate requests "garbage."
And the one pivotal question that those who attempt to dismiss the controversy cannot answer is:
If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, what's the problem? The more he resists, the more you have to wonder.
Meanwhile the liberal press is trying to drag this story into a dark alley and bludgeon it to death...
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Not Conspiracy Theories... Just The Facts...
Here are some of the disturbing facts surrounding Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE — not rumors, not wild theories — just the FACTS.
FACT #1: Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, SPECIFICALLY states, "No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President..." It's NOT a technicality, or lunacy on the part of our Founding Fathers. It is a specific statement within a document that forms the basis for ALL of our laws and not open to interpretation (unless the entire Constitution should be now open to interpretation).
FACT #2: In order to be a "natural born citizen," you must be born in the United States or, if you are born abroad, you CAN (if specific circumstances are met) inherit citizenship status from your parents. If he was born abroad, then that's a problem for Barack Hussein Obama because his father was NOT a citizen of the United States and his mother had not lived in the United States the required amount of time after attaining the age of consent when Obama was born - meaning SHE COULD NOT pass her citizenship on to Obama.
FACT #3: If Barack Hussein Obama WAS NOT born in the United States, he IS NOT a "natural born citizen" and if that is the case, Obama is guilty of perpetuating the most massive fraud in the history of the United States!
FACT #4: Barack Hussein Obama has ACTIVELY REFUSED to show his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE to the people who elected him. Under Hawaiian law, only Obama can legally release the document but HE JUST WON'T DO IT! Why not?
FACT #5: Obama has multiple teams of lawyers helping him shield the document from the prying eyes of the American people. Why?
FACT #6: Instead of producing an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, Team Obama produced another document — a "Certification of Live Birth" — and said, in effect, "Here's his Birth Certificate! Now shut up!"
And when it comes to FACT #6, Team Obama engaged in a sleight-of-hand that is going unnoticed by the American people, because the liberal media refuses to scrutinize the actions of Barack Hussein Obama.
A CERTIFICATION of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate (A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth)... [notice the difference in the words "certification" and "certificate"] ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS.
A CERTIFICATION of Live Birth - the document that Team Obama produced - is a document that essentially proves that you exist and Barack Hussein Obama most certainly EXISTS - that point is not in dispute.
A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) - on the other hand contains more information. It gives the specific location of your birth, the hospital, the time of birth, the attending physician etc.
For purposes of illustration see the images below. The image on the left is the CERTIFICATION of Live Birth that Team Obama released and the image on the right is a redacted copy of an actual CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) from the State of Hawaii from approximately the same time that Obama was born.
[SORRY, I COULDN'T GET THE IMAGES TO COPY OVER]
So what's the big deal?
Simply put, a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth CAN contain ERRORS.
The State of Hawaii provides a concrete example of this point! Hawaii maintains programs to encourage property ownership for native Hawaiians.
And pursuant to those programs, the Hawaii Department of Home Lands (DHHL) states the following on its website:
"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."
If the State of Hawaii DOES NOT accept its own CERTIFICATION of Live Birth as proof that an individual was actually born in Hawaii, why should we? If Hawaii REQUIRES an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE , WHY SHOULDN'T WE??
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Transparency Indeed...
Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states in part, "No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President."
That means neither Arnold Schwarzenegger nor George Soros can be President of the United States. Not EVER! Neither can Osama bin Laden. It also means, as previously stated, that IF Barack Obama was born outside the United States, he is not eligible to be President of the United States.
And Obama's paternal grandmother said, she was present at Obama's birth, which took place in Mombasa in what is now Kenya.
So where was Obama born?
Only an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question (not the Certification of Live Birth that Obama produced) — and Obama has multiple teams of lawyers dedicated to the proposition that nobody — but NOBODY — gets to see the one document that can clear up this controversy. That's INSANE!
It's OUTRAGEOUS that Obama continues to cover up the document! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO CONCLUDE THAT HE'S HIDING SOMETHING!
In his grandiose MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, Obama proclaimed:
"SUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government: My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government."
Just pretty words. They mean absolutely nothing to Barack Obama, the non-transparent president — IF INDEED HE IS THE PRESIDENT.
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Is This Whole Controversy Such A Big Deal Or Much Ado About Nothing?
IT WAS for John McCain!
You may still remember that the liberal media make a HUGE DEAL out of the fact that McCain was born in the Canal Zone, while his father, a Naval officer, was stationed there. The liberal media relentlessly questioned whether or not McCain met the constitutional test?
But John McCain - unlike Obama - released all relevant records!
While the Canal Zone was not American soil, McCain's parents were both American citizens who had resided in the United States for the required number of years after having reached the age of majority! McCain was good to go.
Can we say the same for Obama? And why isn't the liberal media asking that question?
Strangely, it may have been the liberal media's willingness to savage McCain over the issue that eventually brought this whole controversy to light.
When Obama's grandmother claimed Obama was born in Kenya, the McCain controversy was still fresh in the minds of people who wondered - and are still wondering - why the same standard was NOT being applied to Obama.
But, as the American people are coming to know, you are simply not allowed to criticize or scrutinize "the messiah" or hold "the chosen one" up to any standard.
Now, just raising what was a legitimate question in regards to John McCain makes you a conspiracy theorist or nut when it comes to Obama.
Please understand, no one is saying that Obama is NOT a "natural born citizen." What we're saying is we just don't KNOW, BECAUSE BARACK "MR. TRANSPARENCY" OBAMA WILL NOT RELEASE HIS ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
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More Questions....
Not to confound or confuse the issue but here's a complicating twist: the State of Hawaii permits parents to obtain a "birth certificate," EVEN IF THE CHILD WAS NOT BORN IN HAWAII.
Below is the relevant statute:
"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."
When queried, Dr Chiyome Fukino, with Hawaii's Department of Health, stated:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Okay, an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE exists. Great... why can't the American people see it since it will clearly indicate the specific place of birth?
As for Obama's inner circle, they offer a quick, arrogant reply to anyone who asks about the rumors surrounding Obama's birth certificate (and this is a direct quote):
"All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage."
Writer Jerome Corsi, pursuing this story, raised the following question: "If Barack Obama was born in Africa, wouldn't there be a birth certificate on file there?" So Corsi hopped a plane to Kenya, where he spent most of his time in a holding area, the next thing to a prisoner. His hotel room was ransacked. He was questioned by the police. But he was never permitted to search for a birth certificate.
Maybe he didn't reckon on Obama's cousin, Raila Odinga. Covering up a birth would have been a piece of cake to Odinga, who has been charged with ethnic cleansing against Kenyan Christians.
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Even More Questions....
Janet Porter, writing for WorldNetDaily.com, raises additional issues. This may be convoluted, but it is well-worth examining, if only to see the tangled web Obama has woven for himself and the American people.
"'There's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit."
"'There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in — since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens.... If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.'"
Remember how Dan Rather and CBS News took a lie about George Bush's military service record and twisted it into a major news story? Remember how the New York Times put an old rumor about John McCain on its front page and tried to make it a major issue in the campaign?
In sharp contrast, see how the New York Times and CBS News have run from this story like a rabbit runs from a coyote.
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Saving The United States Of America....
If Obama was in fact born in Kenya, the information may save the United States from bankruptcy: Since Obama's inauguration on Jan. 20, stocks have plummeted to catastrophic lows.
The Dow has fallen 20.4 percent. Investors have lost an estimated $2.5 trillion in market value.
All because an arrogant young man — obsessed with 19th century Marxism — is trying to wreck the United States of America.
But suppose he isn't legally president after all? Then that fact would surely nullify all his official acts, and acts he plans to put into place, including the following: His recent executive order rescinding the Mexico City Policy and committing U.S. taxpayers to fund abortion worldwide;
His upcoming appointments, including FCC members who might attempt to shut down conservative talk radio;
Any treaty he might sign that would weaken our defenses in an increasingly dangerous world;
And the signing of legislation giving amnesty to illegal aliens.
Nope. You did not specifically answer it yet again. Your above statement implies that you agree with my question, but then you restate that proof is not required in your view which then refutes your above statement. You can't have it both ways.
You either believe that "anyone running for public office should have to provide basic proof..." or you don't. You don't get to claim a statement that you agree it should be required then do a 180 and then claim the opposite. Are you being intentionally obtuse or were you just born that way???
As for your reading of the 20th amendment, perhaps you should consider the notion of failing to qualify as meaning not having garnered enough electoral votes. The eligibility information is clearly stated in Article 2 Section 1.
Yes it is and Article 2 section 1 clearly states 'natural born'. Says nothing about electoral votes. Perhaps you should consider the notion of failing to qualify means providing proof you meet the qualification of Article 2 section 1.
As for your name calling...
Now its my turn to go LOL! Calling you an obama supporter is now name calling?!? All you have to do is follow your posts on this birth certificate issue and you defend him every single time. Res Ipsa Loquitur.
Grandma Dunham worked at the Bank of Hawaii and did volunteer work in a probate court where SS#'s of the deceased flow freely.
A guy can dream, can't he? :)
While we are at it I think that if the above was the case....Sarah Palin and her choice should become President and Vice President ASAP...we all have our dreams.
;)
Why would you do volunteer work at a probate court? I thought she worked more in mtgs at the bank. Thanks for the update. Something very strange about the family.
Frantzie,
I traced back the origin of the probate court info. It came from Orly’s interview on G. Gordon Liddy’s radio show.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2212605/posts
Keep in mind Ann Dunham and Madelyn Dunham worked with loans. You need to put down your social on your loan applications. Madelyn Dunham volunteered in probate department of the Oahu Circuit Court House (how sweet and noble). You can get all the vital statistics of the deceased from the probate court, if you are a volunteer there.
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/from-birthdatabasecom-more-info-we-are.html
You’ve called me an obamabot and referred to my insane posterings. Yes, you have engaged in the ancient art of the ad hominem. But I won’t take the bait. You can keep trying if you wish, or deny that you’ve done it. I don’t care either way.
Let me try again.
I am in full agreement that anyone seeking public office should have to supply proof of eligibility. By the same token, I see nothing in the Constitution of the US that says someone MUST do so. There is no contradiction in holding those two positions, despite your notion to the contrary.
You are not a consitutional scholar, nor am I. My reading of the 20th amendment, and a few articles about it refer to it as the lame duck amendment. None of the articles I have read address the ‘fail to qualify’ issue, eligibility issue. I am very open to the opinions of those who know more than I do about the amendment, but I don’t think you are the person to educate me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Please explain as to why Governor Schwarzenegger has publicly acknowledged his own stated ineligibility to run for Office of the President
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Because we all know he’s Austrian? I feel like I’m missing something from your question, ‘cuz the answer is so clear.
With all due respect to Orly Taitz, she's neglecting a fact: the requirement for your social security number on loans is relatively new. Before the mid-sixties or so, most institutions obeyed the Social Security Act and DID NOT use the numbers for identification.
Thanks. This is insane. This family makes the Sopranos look normal.
At least biden was born in the U.S.. My guess is he is owned by the credit card companies versus Hussein who is owned by the Saudis and probably Indonesia (the largest muslim country in the world).
He traveled on an Indonesian passport. Soetoro legally adopted him (hence 0bama’s name is legally Soetoro) and moved to Indinesia. 0bama atended a grade school for Indonesian citizens only. He visited Pakistan for a summer during college and had to have used an Indonesian passport. He enrolled at Occidental College under the foreign student scholarship program (why do you think he won’t release his transcripts).
I've seen speculation about this, but not that we have evidence. Do you have evidence that
1. 0bama traveled on an Indonesian passport?
2. Soetero legally adopted him? (in which case there would be a legal name change, and would have to be a legal change back or he's using a false name!)
3. He was enrolled under the foreign scholarship program at Occidental?
Section 3 of the Twentieth Amendment DEMANDS that he "qualify" and it places this burden squarely on HIM.
3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
In addition, this is written into U.S. Code 3USC19
TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT
CHAPTER 1--PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES
Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.
As to the question of "who" has standing to challenge this it's written into the U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:
” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Anyone who takes this oath has standing to challenge the eligibility qualifications of Mr. Obama because they are REQUIRED to support the Constitution or they would be breaking the law. No court can force a person to break the law in order to protect the law. Those "with standing" include many more officials than at the Federal level and include those in the state ranks as well. All we need is one of THEM to step forward.
See my post above.
LOL.
Orly has contacted the FBI in AZ. to investigate. Here is a report: http://defendourfreedoms.org/letterHolder.htm
When someone hides something, they have something to hide. I see Obama being removed from the Presidency before Christmas.
Sorry, I think I sent you the wrong link
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