Posted on 03/06/2009 4:27:07 PM PST by AJ in NYC
It is an article of faith in the loopier precincts of the Internet, impervious to evidence to the contrary, that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president of the United States because he is not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution requires.
All this would be quite harmless, like believing in the Illuminati or alien abduction, except that the extra-chromosome true believers have taken to filing suit in the federal courts basically seeking to overturn the election.
(Excerpt) Read more at scrippsnews.com ...
Well, without digging through Hawaii code, their preamble, definitions, or otherwise, my initial feeling is that the "State" is the State of Hawaii. However...
There are five Counties in the State of Hawaii. Note the syntax: "law enforcement officer of the State or a county" -- also note the "small c" in "county." So the way it's written, being exact in language (and not necessarily their INTENT therein), ANY County LEO from Georgia, Oklahoma, etc, could cite a criminal investigation to DIRECTLY get his/her hands on a copy of BHO's "Long Form." I've seen the LEO Request Form , but can't put my fingers on it at the moment... It's pretty benign.
REGARDLESS, because of Reciprocation, ANY Criminal investigation from ANY LEO from ANY state SHOULD be able to funnel up to their state's AG, and then to the Hawaii AG, to request a copy of the "Long Form" on their behalf.
Thoughts from the group?
BOTH parents must be american. His daddy wasn’t.
RELATED TO TITLE OF THREAD . . .
BUT IS HE
. . . . . . . HUMAN?
After ‘witnessing’ Sandy Burgler getting away with stealing official government documents from the National Archives, I see this reducing of security as taylor made for an ex-CIA operative in Obammy’s hire, to plant the necessary forgery to have all this go away, including the search for truth on college entry apps, passport apps, etc. We The People are no longer the sovereigns. The marxist bastards now running this country are merely allowing us to think we are still in a nation governed by law and order. This HI easing of restriction is merely for show, pap, if you will.
. . . . . . . HUMAN?
True. As we start pushing the boundaries of animal rights, robotics, cloning, and genetic engineering, the application of the Law to non-human entities is starting to be a concern... For example: Can a robot be charged for murder if found guilty of killing a human?
HOWEVER, for the sake of THIS situation, let's ALSO include the corporeal entity of the Anti-Christ, in form and function, in the definition of "HUMAN" in regards to the Law ... again, this just for argument's sake, to cover all situations here ;)
When states write legislation, they use the word “State” with an uppercase ‘S’ to reference their own state as the governing authority of said legislation. Each state is a sovereign entity unto itself and cannot prescribe rules that apply to another state.
Therefore, professionals licensed by a state to practice in that state must obtain a license (or temporary special permission) to practice from each state in which they want to practice.
Same thing with law enforcement. A Louisianna officer has no authority in Texas because a) he is not employed by the State of Texas and b) his actions are not governed by the State of Texas. If a LA LEO needs something from TX, he must obtain it from a TX LEO who is governed by the State of Texas.
The wording would also seem to exclude city LEOs because they are employed by individual cities rather than the State. It seems to apply only to Hawaii State Police (DPS) and county sheriffs.
Last point. It also seems that the criminal investigation must be performed by a LEO who is subject to penalty of perjury under Hawaii law. So the question becomes (IMHO), can an out of state LEO obtain the necessary documents for his own criminal investigation through professional courtesy from a Hawaii LEO? I would say, yes, because it’s done all the time in other respects, but it will be left upto the individual judgment of the Hawaii LEO or his superior.
Always remember:
What is the topic of the thread? Stick to legitimate discussion therein
(Easier said than done, and I've fallen prey to it many times as well ...)
Restated: Don't feed the troll.
LOL.
Except that the stakes make laughing too hard a bit surreal.
All very well stated -- thanks for the intelligent response. We all know that WORDS MEAN THINGS... Look how "Natural Born Citizen" has been distorted by the Left.
What's your view of THIS wording from the Bill:
... vested by law with a duty to maintain public order or to make arrests for offenses or to enforce the criminal laws of the State
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2201077/posts?page=187#187
That's what it looks like to me. An out of state LEO agency requests support from Hawaiian LEO - a two step.
You miss the main point......
The constitution does not just require the president to be a citizen, but a natural born citizen.
“Natural born” can be interpreted as including birth to parents serving overseas as military, diplomatic corps, etc., but not to someone who is simply out of the country visiting uncle Fred in Timbuktu (or Kenya.)
The overwhelming question, and the main reason to be suspicious of Obama’s citizenship is the fact that he not only will not make his birth certificat available, but is has a team of lawyers fighting to prevent it from coming to light.
It is just a matter of time when the truth will be out in the open for all Americans to see. Those who are working hard to take our country into Communism will not succeed. Once the brainwashed Americans know the truth they will join us to take our country back! :)
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