Obama is Still an American, Still President

Scripps News ^ | 3/6/2009 | Dale McFeaters...etal.

[AJ in NYC]

It is an article of faith in the loopier precincts of the Internet, impervious to evidence to the contrary, that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president of the United States because he is not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

All this would be quite harmless, like believing in the Illuminati or alien abduction, except that the extra-chromosome true believers have taken to filing suit in the federal courts basically seeking to overturn the election.

[Red Steel]

Nice looking form with four official signatures on the bottom. Even has a block for “legitimate” birth.

[Red Steel]

When people say “long form birth certificate” from Hawaii they are really speaking about the CertifiCATE of Live Birth.

[Red Steel]

So when did Hawaii quit issuing for specific requests CertifiCATES of Lives Births? Do you know?

They won’t give a requester under any circumstances?...Oh, how I doubt that.

[BP2]

Yes, the pamphlet is dated August 2000, and yet it's still on the state website, which was updated by "admin," on 2008-12-19 at 14:53 ...

So it this:

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/laws/administrative-rules/DHHL%20Administrative%20Rules.pdf
HAWAII ADMINISTRATIVE RULES
TITLE 10
DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS
comp 10/26/98

So, I guess the WHOLE of DHHL administrative rules, predating August 2000, must be thrown out too, huh?

OH, be sure to see the ‘Richcares’ comments above as to the validity of the "Hawaii is saying they don't provide certified copies in the form of a photostatic copy..." You SURE are wanting to jump on that one, huh?

You’re pretending that the CertificaTION contain the identical vital information as the CertificATE -- no more and no less -- which of course is not true.

You’re pretending that unverified COLBs, as well as copies generated from the State of Hawaii, are legally binding documents that CANNOT be challenged -- which of course is not true.

And you’re pretending as though Obama’s original Certificate of Live Birth is irrelevant to the question of his native, i.e. "natural born," citizenship, simply because he has distributed copies of what appears to be an unverified CertificaTION, at least according to authorities from Hawaii -- which of course is not true.

Michael, you be a punch-drinking Obot fool today... pow!

[BP2]

The reason I queried you on whether or not you believed 9/11 was an inside job is because the evidence presented by those who believe it was is no less credible than the evidence presented by those claiming Obama was born in Kenya, or that his certificate's a forgery, etc.

Well, not all conspiracies are created equal, now are they? And because one is crap, it doesn't mean they all are. In the case of the Twin Towers, phosphorous residual, secondary explosions, witnesses attesting to charges being planted beforehand, etc, might lend credence to the theory, but I've not seen anything like that, have you?

We could debate for eons about UFOs, Bigfoot, if the Bailout was planned by the Illuminati, the grassy knoll, even who God is and if he exists (He does, of course). Such is the mechanics of debate, semantics and sophistry. In the court room, there's ALWAYS a shadow of a doubt.

You can debate until you kill over from exhaustion with a member of the Flat Earth Society. We have gravity on Earth because the flat platter we live on is accelerating upward at a rate of 9.8 m/sec². Their "perspective laws" is the explanation of how ships and aircraft can go off the end of the world and come back on the other side. They have an explanation for eclipses, although it ultimately requires a "leap of faith" to follow...

Occam's Razor can cut both ways. However, it does not take a leap of faith nor deductive elimination -- just a scintilla's understanding of History to know that the Founding Fathers wanted a CinC that had UNdivided loyalty to the US.

Your weak understanding of the "reception statutes," "Ex Post Facto," naturalization laws, the 14th Amendment and other topics presented here are painful to read. Comical, yet painful.

Please... consider going back to http://DemocraticUnderground.com.

Come on... CLICK ON IT ... I know you feel the itch... You know you want to.... Here it is again, with the dreaded BLINK CODE: http://DemocraticUnderground.com

I'm sure they miss you there. They'll throw you a big homecoming party; Michael Moore will officiate.

But no worries for your friends here -- we'll send you a post card at Obama's impeachment, and we can have a big BBQ when he's removed.

[DJ MacWoW]

I love watching you poking Double M into rearranging the deck chairs. Thank you.

[BP2]

A complete lack of credible evidence is a complete lack of credible evidence regardless of the conspiracy theory.

There's a series of engaging threads over on TheFlatEarthSociety.org in which you should engage yourself, Michael. The sophist arguments there are on par with yours:

Please show me any one peer reviewed book or published work which proves through experiment that the earth is a globe.

Well it's quite simple really; if the earth is in fact flat, then the governments must be lying when they say it isn't.

The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.

Tide exist because the earth is tilting, and then the water rushes to the lower side.

The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator. They are located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light" and the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

Evidence such as ABOVE is the type of nonsensical logic circles and non-factual statements you engage in. You have no reasonable explanation, just lamebrain excuses.

Just like the non-excuse I'm sure you have for the items BELOW (let me guess, Barry Soetoro was just a nickname...):

[MinuteGal]

Every single Obama eligibility thread always brings out at least one intellectual who parrots the same line....."this stuff does our cause no good.......we should be focusing like laser beams on reduced taxes, yadda, yadda......"

As though gray-matter-deficient freepers are unable to pat their heads and rub their bellies at the same time.

Stow it, already.

Leni

[BP2]

Exactly, perhaps you should instead be asking, "Please show me any one peer reviewed book or published work which proves through experiment that the earth is a globe."

It's just as disingenuous as your previous question.

[BP2]

he, he, he.... ... running out of time Obama ... Just need some "red state" Governor or AG to tag ya (see below):

This reported from the Hawaii on a state Senate Bill about to be passed into law:

3/10/2009 - Report adopted; Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 1).
Ayes, 25; Aye(s) with reservations: none . Noes, 0 (none). Excused, 0 (none).
Transmitted to House.

No resistance in the House anticipated. Governor has said she will sign. Once it's passed by both houses and signed by the Republican governor, it would allow easier access to birth certificate records -- including BHO's long form BC -- WITHOUT a Court Order as is currently required.

See Post #103 if you're not familiar...

[Jet Jaguar]

BTTT

[thecodont]

No resistance in the House anticipated. Governor has said she will sign. Once it's passed by both houses and signed by the Republican governor, it would allow easier access to birth certificate records -- including BHO's long form BC -- WITHOUT a Court Order as is currently required.

See Post #103 if you're not familiar...

Wow!

[pissant]

Look for some serious interference with this process coming soon.