Posted on 03/01/2009 8:22:44 AM PST by STARWISE
Bill Clinton had the Vince Foster "murder." George W. Bush had 9/11 Truth. And the new administration has brought with it a new culture of conspiracy: The Birthers.
Out of the gaze of the mainstream and even the conservative media is a flourishing culture of advocates, theorists and lawyers, all devoted to proving that Barack Obama isn't eligible to be president of the United States.
Viewed as irrelevant by the White House, and as embarrassing by much of the Republican Party, the subculture still thrives from the conservative website WorldNetDaily, which claims that some 300,000 people have signed a petition demanding more information on Obama's birth, to Cullman, Alabama, where Sen. Richard Shelby took a question on the subject at a town hall meeting last week.
Their confinement to the fringe hasn't cooled the passion of believers; the obscure New York preacher James Manning turned up at a National Press Club session in December to declare the president "the most notorious criminal in the history not just of America, but of this entire planet."
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You are so full of **** I am surprised you are not ashamed of yourself. You are a crystal clear transparent shill for 0bama. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it. You should crawl back and ask your boss for another assignment, you’ve outed yourself.
Just because some aunt brags about it? I’m actually on your side but I don’t trust what some loony Kenyan says about something she didn’t see 47 years ago
If you want to point me to places where you elaborate on that....please do
THe left gets by with lie after lie, nothing much new on this issue,same ol.As long as the media won’t cover it and talk radio ignores it,does not exist.
Obama looks good for being 119 years old doesn't he?
At least that is what his social security number shows on his property records.
Name - OBAMA, BARACK HUSSEIN
Gender - Male
Street Address - 365 BROADWAY APT B1
City, State, Zip - SOMERVILLE MA 02145-2440
Probable Current Address - No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security - 042-68-xxxx
Age - 119
Date of Birth - 1890
Deceased - No
Date Record Verified -
Name - OBAMA, BARACK HUSSEIN
Gender - Male
Street Address - 365 BROADWAY APT B1
City, State, Zip - SOMERVILLE MA 02145-2440
Probable Current Address - No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security - 042-68-xxxx
Age - 119
Date of Birth - 1890
Deceased - No
Date Record Verified -
Darn he looks good for his age. Was that part of the pact he made with the Devil?
>>>We are everywhere and we know who you are.
That is probably the only honest statement you have made on this thread.
I’ve never seen so many SS#s and property listings. I went by one of them near me and the house number doesn’t exist. Yet, it votes.
Greetings, Kevmo!
These “debunking” naysayers who haunt these threads are fooling only themselves.
I know a few freepers who are REAL conservatives, with years of conservative bona fides, who are not interested in this topic or think it is tinged with wingnut kookery. Do they haunt these threads and hassle those of us who are concerned? No, they stay on the threads that interest them.
obumpa
Just pinging you to this bald assertion that the legal work is being done pro bono.
ga medic - I assume you have documentation of this?
Hey! Now that is an interesting thought. If it were, Pro Bono, then the lawyers that were working for him during the campaign would be making a ‘campaign donation’. Hmm, I don’t remember seeing that listed on his FEC filings. We can report that!
Buahahahah!
Then Obama was born without the presence of his Mom. Maybe he is indeed the Messiah.
If Obama was born in Honolulu in 1961, and no one from vitalstats Hawaii has actually said this, why hasn't Obama released his longform COLB? What spend a million dollars litigating it?
TRUE DEFINITION OF NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2196957/posts?page=8#1
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There has been much debate over what constitutes a natural born citizen. Much of the debate has been misinformed calling the concept of natural born an obscure technicality or an overight by the writers of the Constitution.
Neither of these characterizations are true.
Many times the true meaning of consitutional wording must be determined by looking at the era and the circumstances, and, in some cases, terminology in other sections of the constitution, the inclusion or exclusion of supporting verbage, and even writings other than the Constitution.
Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution states, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president; neither shall any person be eligible who shall not attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United Satates.”
The addition of a grandfather clause in this paragraph says a lot as to the meaning of natural born.
The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary.
The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects.
Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died.
So, being a native born citizen is not the same as being natural born. If it were the framers would not have included the clause.
When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, “Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority.”
The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US.”
Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents’ citizenship.
This concept of citizenship by blood as opposed to citizenship by geography is a concept with a long history in British common law.
A law passed in 1677 says that natural born citizens are those persons born to British citizens, including those born overseas.
Alexander Porter wrote an article over 100 years ago in which he declares that the framers drew upon this difference in the law of heredity and territorial allegiance to define a third class of citizen applicable only to the eligibility to hold the office of president.
According to Morse, “the framers thought it wise to provide that the president should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance only to the US at the time of birth.”
He goes on to say that the the eligibility of the president “was scarcely intended to bar the children of American citizens, whether born at sea or in foreign territory.”
The concept of citizenship by blood also precludes the equation of natural born with native born as the latter strictly demands geographical requirements.
Many argue that Barack Obama was eligible to be a state senator and a US senator and could not suddenly be ineligible to be president, but that is exactly the case.
If this premise were true, Arnold Schwarzenegger, governor of California, would also be eligible to be president, and it is established that he is not.
Barack Obama has proudly and publicly stated that his father was a citizen of Kenya. We know his mother was eigteen years old when he was born.
These two facts make Obama ineligible to be president.
No birth certificate is needed as proof, and it doesn’t matter at all where Obama was born. His father’s non-citizenship is all the law requires.
He is ineligible from the beginning, meaning he is NOT the president and can be removed from office without any impeachment or trial, it requires only a ruling by the SCOTUS.
HE is, in fact, a usurper, a pretender or a fake.
So why has Obama been shepharded into our highest elected office regardless of the fact that he is, according to his own statements and the law of the land, ineligible for that office?
It is because those whose responsibility it is to insure the eligibility of the president, the SCOTUS, has chosen, in violation of the law, not to override the voters that voted for Obama.
They are are cowards who violate their sworn oath rather than make an unpopular ruling. We are no longer a republic ruled by law, but, instead have become a democracy with rules made up as we go along, never to be written as law.
Glenn Flowers
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POSTSCRIPT:
In each and every case dismissed by the SCOTUS challenging Obama’s eligibility the reason for dismissal had nothing to do with the merits of the plaintiff’s claim. Not once did the SCOTUS rule Obama was eligible or even consider whether he was or not, rather they dismissed each case on the technicality of plaitiff’s lack of standing to file the case.
I GUESS WE MUST BE ON TO SOMETHING BIG!!!!!!!!!
And you all say basically,"Oh you are all so wrong, Obama was born in Honolulu in 1961. etc."
Well then have pretender prove IT!
Until he proves it he is just a pretender.
And thats all there is to it.
Sooner or later we WILL see that COLB.
And we should see it. You do not want us to see it. What is YOUR reason for notwanting US to see Obama's COLB?
Eh? Do you know?
Do you EVEN know??
ACCORDING TO THE US consitution as US citizens we have a RIGHT to see it.
Obama eligibility tops AOL News
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90447
It is people like YOU that are the true 'enemy'.
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