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Senate Cloture motion on $1 Trillion pork bill passes, 61-36 [FTR: Senator Corker DOESN'T support it
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Posted on 02/09/2009 3:04:21 PM PST by jessduntno

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To: Jim Noble

I voted for McCain, not that it mattered terribly in my state. Just as, against my better judgment, I voted for Corker over Ford. I am at the point of saying, “No more lesser of two evil votes.” It doesn’t make a difference that I can see.


201 posted on 02/09/2009 4:16:16 PM PST by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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To: benjibrowder
No, Corker voted Nay Roll Call Cloture Vote

R's voting Yea:

Collins (R-ME),Snowe (R-ME), Specter (R-PA)

All 56 Dems voted Yea, plus both "independents" (Liberman and Sanders.)

Cornyn (R-TX) and Gregg (R-NH) did not vote.

202 posted on 02/09/2009 4:16:34 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jessduntno
All the supporters of this porkulus is claiming that the bill isn't perfect but it's needed. If they know the flaws that make it imperfect then why don't they work on removing the flaws?
203 posted on 02/09/2009 4:17:37 PM PST by tobyhill (Obama gets no free pass from Free Republic!)
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To: benjibrowder

I’ve always hated being in the same party as Specter. He defended that unicorn killer back then.

As for Snowe and Collins-— we all knew about their lack of backbone.

But Corker — what’s he up to?


204 posted on 02/09/2009 4:18:02 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: WheresMyBailout
I think Corker voted for it due to a procedural manuver.

He voted against. Only RINOs to vote for were Specter, Collins and Snowe. Cornyn and Gregg did not vote. All Dems and Indies voted "yea".

205 posted on 02/09/2009 4:21:08 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: blam

Unbelieveable!!!
$4.2 billion of my money for a Black racist political organization, ACORN.

We are done folks...they will use that money to assure Democrats win every election from now on...coupled with the census department run by the White House.

You are 100% correct !!


206 posted on 02/09/2009 4:21:16 PM PST by stevecmd
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To: Chunga

However, now that there are Communists in power, they are voting with the Communists. That is why I ask the question. What difference does it make when the other Party is in power to have people that vote with them. It helps the Republican Party not at all - they only get the blame for being the 3 Republicans that passed it (never mind the 59 Dims...)


207 posted on 02/09/2009 4:21:44 PM PST by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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To: stevecmd

FOX NEWS JUST REPORTED: The Obama administration pointed to a new Gallup poll Monday in arguing that the public is still on their side.

The poll found Obama had a 67 percent approval rating for the way he was handling the stimulus. But the same was not true for those in Congress. Democrats had a 48 percent approval rating and Republicans had just a 31 percent approval rating for the way they were handling the process.


208 posted on 02/09/2009 4:25:00 PM PST by Toespi
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To: jessduntno
OK. Any bets this thing passes with the same votes???

Wit the possible except that the two "not voting" will vote against it. That would make it 61-38. Although it's possible a Dem or three up in 2010 will vote nea, and hope they can hide behind "We needed to vote" to cover their cloture vote.

Der Furher The Messiah will be pleased.

209 posted on 02/09/2009 4:25:19 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Toespi

FOX NEWS JUST REPORTED: The Obama administration pointed to a new Gallup poll Monday in arguing that the public is still on their side.

The poll found Obama had a 67 percent approval rating for the way he was handling the stimulus. But the same was not true for those in Congress. Democrats had a 48 percent approval rating and Republicans had just a 31 percent approval rating for the way they were handling the process.

It Looks like Obama’s numbers are actually improving since the election. Ugh!


210 posted on 02/09/2009 4:27:23 PM PST by stevecmd
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To: Hanna548; WheresMyBailout

I second Hanna’s request. Please explain the procedural maneuver comment “You always have one guy who supports the fillibuster to oppose the fillibuster so they can bring it up for a vote again.”

Thanks much...


211 posted on 02/09/2009 4:28:06 PM PST by green pastures
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To: Ingtar

amen


212 posted on 02/09/2009 4:29:17 PM PST by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: Ingtar

It may be getting time to max out the withholding allowances and consider a conscientious objection to taxes if this is the manner in which government will be operated... the only recourse would be to keep the money away from those who are abusing the privilege.


213 posted on 02/09/2009 4:29:27 PM PST by alancarp (Ban all H1B visas and solve unemployment instantly -- for free.)
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To: Nuc1

I agree with you and it affects all levels of politics.


214 posted on 02/09/2009 4:30:10 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: ABQHispConservative
this vote will be used against Corker in the future. It just seems like a dumb thing to do.

It would have been a dumb thing, but he did NOT do it, according to the Senate Roll Call Vote.

215 posted on 02/09/2009 4:30:22 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: WheresMyBailout

Rather, only a Senator on the prevailing side may bring it up again.


216 posted on 02/09/2009 4:33:09 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious)
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To: Salvation
If this was to invoke cloture, do all you guys and gals think you can change the minds of Specter, Collins, Snowe and Corker with your descent upon Washington D. C.

Wouldn't matter if they did. At this point they only need 51 votes to pass. (VP vote doesn't come in to the picture, since there are only 99 votes right now, and there cannot be a tie, the only time the VP can vote.) But there might be 100 by the time the final bill gets out of conference committee.

???? Is there another opportunity for a filibuster after the conference committee, or must that be a straight up and down vote????

217 posted on 02/09/2009 4:36:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: PhiKapMom
Our local news was reminding people that 60 votes are needed in the Senate for final package.

No, only 50 votes are required on final passage. Given a 'Rat VP or as currently the case, an open seat. It's a vote to cut off debate and move to that final vote (final Senate vote that is) that requires 60 votes. They got 61.

218 posted on 02/09/2009 4:39:32 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

You are absolutely right. I see that they carted Kennedy out though.


219 posted on 02/09/2009 4:39:35 PM PST by ABQHispConservative
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To: Cboldt
Nope. The vote today was to limit debate on one amendment. Associated with that is an agreement to have vote on final passage set at 60, with the potential for additional "point of order" votes which are, by Senate rule, set at 60. The 60 vote threshold for the vote on final passage is just a short cut combination cloture/final passage vote. Senators know that it takes 60 to limit debate, and when the KNOW there are 60 supporters, they usually agree to skip the formality of separate cloture and substantive votes.

That's actually a Good Thing. It means no more than a single Sinator can change their vote, so as to "hide" from their voters, and still pass the beast.

I'd like to see them pass this beast through their ureters. :(

220 posted on 02/09/2009 4:44:49 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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