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Lawmaker says he wants to reclaim Utah lands ( Sagebrush Rebellion )
abc 4 ^ | February 8, 2009

Posted on 02/08/2009 6:54:41 PM PST by george76

A state lawmaker said Friday he wants to reclaim Utah's lands and resources from the federal government so the public can use them for recreation and energy development.

Rep. Michael Noel, R-Kanab, said he's declaring another Sagebrush Rebellion. The original Sagebrush Rebellion took place in the 1970s and 1980s, when a coalition of mining and grazing interests pressured federal policy makers to cede greater control of federal lands to state and local authorities.

Noel said that Utah can "take care of itself," and that the federal government shouldn't be allowed to regulate what the state can do with its own resources.

"States created the federal government," he said. "The federal government did not create the states."

Hundreds of recreation activists, including Utah Jazz legend Karl Malone, rallied in the Capitol on Friday, saying they want multiple-use access for federal lands.

"No way they're going to kick us off of what we own," Malone said.

Brad Johnson of Murray grew up in Utah riding all-terrain vehicles on the state's trails. But he said many of those trails have been closed.

"It's like we're just always defending ourselves from a constant attack,"

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bho44; bhoenergy; g75; michaelnoel; naturalresources; noel; sagebrush; sagebrushrebellion; statesrights
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To: george76

WootWooot!! I lived in Utah many years. Back in the days when people were still FREE.


61 posted on 02/08/2009 8:28:12 PM PST by redhead (Don't look at ME! I voted for Sarah!)
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To: george76; Phil V.; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; sasquatch; Issaquahking; AuntB; farmfriend; ...
"Another Sagebrush Rebellion ?"

Well, I'd say County Commissioner Dick Carver, Wayne Hage, the people of Jarbidge, NV and the farmers and ranchers of Klamath Falls, OR & CA were also chapters of the "Sagebrush Rebellion" in the 1990's, as well as Catron County, NM earlier on.

The "War On The West" with it's "Rural Cleansing" and with it's fight against totalitarian GovernMental EnvironMentalists is still set to see several more chapters of individualists with property and resourse rights defending their God-given constitutional inalienable RIGHTs!!!

62 posted on 02/08/2009 8:28:42 PM PST by SierraWasp (The Jim Jones of the 21st Century is now POTUS!!! Whack0bama has lost his limo liberal Uncle Tom!!!)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Amen. The military installations should be bases that are not gigantic. Bombing ranges should be leased from the state.

I hope Utah has the guts to take this all the way and that other states follow - ASAP. This is using the Constitution and states rights to beat Alinsky and Cloward-Piven - this is what we need to do.


63 posted on 02/08/2009 8:28:46 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: george76

Secede!


64 posted on 02/08/2009 8:32:30 PM PST by pankot
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To: Sybeck1

Where’s ol Chuck Cushman? He’s the one who has the most fun as a sagebrush rebel!!!


65 posted on 02/08/2009 8:32:37 PM PST by SierraWasp (The Jim Jones of the 21st Century is now POTUS!!! Whack0bama has lost his limo liberal Uncle Tom!!!)
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To: pankot

I hope to hear this from a few other states!


66 posted on 02/08/2009 8:33:41 PM PST by swatbuznik
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To: george76
AWESOME! Maybe they can make it happen this time and other States will follow suit. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
67 posted on 02/08/2009 8:47:09 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: george76
"It's like we're just always defending ourselves from a constant attack,"

Same thing with hikers, mountain bikers, property owners, prospectors, pilots, scuba divers, boaters, kayakers the list goes on and on. We're always under siege and it's about to get worse.

Urban dwelling socialists view the rest of us as nothing more than illiterate hicks who must be stopped from harming "mother earth."

Make no mistake about it, these left wing extremists view us as undesirables just like the Nazis viewed other people as undesirable.

68 posted on 02/08/2009 8:51:19 PM PST by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: Aglooka

Maybe it is time to remind the Urban Dwelling Socialists of the origins of their food.


69 posted on 02/08/2009 8:52:55 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Frantzie

And they need to get rid of Orrin Hatch, too.


70 posted on 02/08/2009 9:11:32 PM PST by luvadavi (Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...)
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To: swatbuznik; marsh2; Dog Gone; Iconoclast2; Grampa Dave; AuntB; Issaquahking
I don't know about other states, but the GovernMental loving EnvironMentalists have always claimed that CA gave up too much, too soon, in it's quest to become a state. The "Statehood Act" reads like this...

"Whereas, the people of California have presented a constitution and asked admission into the Union, which constitution was submitted to Congress by the President of the United States, by message dated February thirteenth, eighteen hundred and fifty, and which, on due examination, is found to be republican in its form of government:

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the State of California shall be one, and is hereby declared to be one, of the United States of America, and admitted into the Union on an equal footing with the original States in all respects whatever.

SEC 2. And be it further enacted, That until the representatives in Congress shall be apportioned according to an actual enumeration of the inhabitants of the United States, the State of California shall be entitled to two representatives in Congress.

SEC 3. And be it further enacted, That the said State of California is admitted into the Union upon the express condition that the people of said State, through their legislature or otherwise, shall never interfere with the primary disposal of the public lands within its limits, and shall pass no law and do no act whereby the title of the United States, and the right to dispose of, the same shall be impaired or questioned; and that they shall never lay any tax or assessment of any description whatsoever upon the public domain of the United States, and in no case shall non-resident proprietors, who are citizens of the United States, be taxed higher than residents; and that all navigable waters within the said State shall be common highways, and forever free, as well to the inhabitants of said State as to the citizens of the United States, without any tax, impost, or duty therefor. Provided, That nothing herincontained shall be construed as recognizing or rejecting the propositions tendered by the people of California as articles of compact in the ordinance adopted by the convention which formed the constitution of that State.

Approved, September 9, 1850.

71 posted on 02/08/2009 9:12:59 PM PST by SierraWasp (The Jim Jones of the 21st Century is now POTUS!!! Whack0bama has lost his limo liberal Uncle Tom!!!)
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To: Bender2

FYI ping.


72 posted on 02/08/2009 9:16:29 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Teacher317
It just so happened that Indonesia and Utah happened to have the only two major deposits of some kind of ultra-clean burning coal.

IIRC, there is one other as clean--in Kosovo. Dog wagging took that out of play nicely.

73 posted on 02/08/2009 9:43:54 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
“Kosovo is quite rich with mineral resources, lignite, lead, zinc, nickel, chrome, gold and silver as well as many other rare minerals,” Source

I seem to have missed an angle. It seems the Elmwood Carthage lead/zinc prospect would have been worth even more with Stari Trg off line, too...

74 posted on 02/08/2009 9:52:38 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: george76

WOO..HOO!


75 posted on 02/08/2009 9:54:50 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: marsh2

I agree and I live in the “east” (Indiana, Anyway).


76 posted on 02/08/2009 10:00:43 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Frantzie

“This is a state rights issue. The Fed govt STOLE this property.”

Speaking of state rights, don’t all the states have an interest in the property in question because the property in question is actually owned by the United States (the States in union) with the Federal Government acting as their agent?

And it’s true the property is stolen, but it was stolen by the United States (the States in union with the Federal Government acting as their agent) from Mexico back about 1848.


77 posted on 02/08/2009 10:12:56 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: george76
"States created the federal government," he said. "The federal government did not create the states."

As much as I love this guy, he better be careful with that line. While it is true for the original 13 colonies, UTAH was granted Statehood by the U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT in 1896.

78 posted on 02/08/2009 10:15:45 PM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I never thought I could. Matheson is darn near a Republican, and the Republicans that have gone against him lately have been complete losers. But no more. He pretended to be a fiscal conservative, but when the “stimulus” came up, he rolled over for Her Highness Nancy.

No more. I am determined to find a solid conservative who isn’t a lunatic that can run against Matheson. He has 80% approval in a very red state, but there has to be someone who can take him out.


79 posted on 02/08/2009 10:24:50 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (B.O. ? BOHICA!!!)
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To: Army Air Corps; george76
Thanks AAC. Great to see Utah also flexing their Constitutional muscle. This type of reaction by the sovereign states to the abuses of the feral government is long overdue. Like I said on another thread, our individual states should have been our first line of defense against a runaway federal leviathan. What's taken them so long???

I'm of the opinion the states' protestations will have a much larger impact on the dolts in DC than we conservatives, even in large groups could ever have. Without taking up arms anyway. Which is another arrow in the states' quiver should they choose to implement it -- state militias. Will it come to that? Will we be ready if it does?

George, do you have something akin to a 10th amendment or states rights ping list? I'm not aware of one and Army Air Corps suggested one a couple days ago. If there is enough interest I think it would be a good idea and would keep Freepers engaged and hopefully involved in these type developments. I am all but convinced states' efforts in reclaiming their sovereignty may be our last chance to rein in the feral beast. AND if there is not already a ping list in place, I would be willing and (mostly) able to perfom that function.

80 posted on 02/08/2009 10:33:03 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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