Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
You’re the one, my condolences.
I challenged him but he never responded to me, and I have reason to believe he was the troll of another freeper.
Just temporarily? That’s too bad—he deserves worse. That was the worst travesty I’ve seen here. And the Orly part! Pu-leez! The guy must hear voices or something.
Apparently it was only a temp ban even though I was sent 24 emails saying FU but spelled out in 20 minutes. You know the guy FMN are the initials. He hated Berg, claimed to be an attorneyand claimed to be a pal of Orly’s - yeah right.
He may be back under a new name in this thread.
As their baby boy slips lower and lower in the approval polls, you can expect more and more desperation on the part of the trolls. It seems like they’re bringing in “new blood” also. One guy didn’t last the day yesterday—he was so obnoxious that the mods bounced him right out of the box.
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Congratulations Beckwith. I always said your file on Obama was the best on the net. Now, there is proof.
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You bet I know him. My eyeballs were spinning around in my head watching his antics that day! And I believe that he was promoting Berg one day, slamming him the next. Weird.
Agreed. The little troll then sent me the FU 24 times. Sickening. He should have been banned. He will be back. He appeared to be a deep mole. Some people thought his name was hijacked but I doubt it.
The Military members need to send cases up to SCOTUS. O pardoned the killer of the USS Cole crewmembers.
Yeah, that Cole thing was FU’d, to borrow some vocabulary from our zotted friend. If that doesn’t get some servicemen motivated, I don’t know what will.
Of course, no one here suggests that they do anything rashly that would get themselves in trouble.
I agree with you that they will throw more bodies and I bet as part of the stimulus or any budget they will hire a thousand trolls or more to spam all the message boards. The GOP better stand up against that bill or it is over.
Anyone know what the rules of engagement are with Jim Robinson and FR. I am not trying to be a troublemaker but can we flat out in the message tell these people we know they are trolls for Obama? I suggested this and was told I might get bounced. I support Jim and FR but we need to be able to call these creeps out.
I’m almost positive that JimRob told a FReeper that he’d get banned if he called a poster an Obot again. I think that was the same one Jim told to stop troll hunting also but I’m not certain.
The “Pork for Trolls Program!” I love it! LOL!
Nothing rash but there has to be a way that active military can have rights against an usurper playing “catch & release” with terrorists who kill American soldiers.
Extremely sick move. Infuriating!!
Of course, if you do what I and several other “regulars” do and simply refuse to respond to the trolls, you won’t be doing anything to upset the mods.
I remember the names and faces of every baby I delivered in 1980. I remember every face of every mother, too.
Okay, it was only one. I delivered my sone in our living room because my wife had a full 25 minutes of labor, and there he was!
What was really nice is that the physician who was supposed to deliver the baby came to check on the baby, and said to me, “Nice work . . . Doc,” and then instructed his office to return to me the fees we had pre-paid.
Now that I remember!
In fact, if you read all of the decision it spends a great deal of time deciding that the British common law DOES translate to US common law on this matter, and does settle the natural born citizen issue. It says precisely what you just said it didn't.
"It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.""III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."
He didn't say what it said, though...
Here in the SF Bay area, they simply adopt.
Red has a skewed vision. He's referring to posts where another poster would attack me and ping Jim to it, then I would respond. Somehow to Red that is me whining, not the poster I was responding to. Strange.
"As for personal attacks, it's the manifestation of people getting frustrated with his illogical arguments, of him not accepting he's clearly incorrect. He will repeats his talking point over and over. It doesn't matter to him."
I have not been shown to be clearly incorrect, nor to present illogical arguments. Some of you don't like the things I post, but that's not the same thing. Just saying it is wrong doesn't make it so. I post the same points because the same points keep coming up, and the things I'm posting are still true.
Yet oddly enough her SSN is still very much active. Stanley Ann Dunham's number is now being used by Scott (or Kelly) Dunham.
Makes me wonder if she had a sex change operation...
[The qur'an says the next madhi "won't be born of a woman]...
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