Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
Do people really use their birth certificates? I haven’t even seen mine since I applied for my first passport, and that was when I was still in high school. What are the reasons that people are having to produce their birth certificatse once they’re adults?
Nope. Their are only required to keep them for 7 years, or until the patient reaches 25 years of age, whichever comes last.
http://ihcrp.georgetown.edu/privacy/stateguides/hi/hi.pdf Therefore, it is highly doubtful that there is anything in the records from 1961.
You are indeed an extreme liberal; ask any other FReeper.
You are correct. Also his half-brother and half-sister were allegedly witnesses.
My bad..
I notice you rarely respond to comments to you. Did you read my comment to you above?
And yes, I have a copy of my original BC with doc’s name, hospital and all that. Don’t most people?
You’re blowing intestinal gas out of the hole in the top of your head.
One of the reasons that the hospitals never destroy the records is that they are of monitary value to them. Statisticians purchase the info frequently.
Kapi'olani has no record of his birth.
It is indeed difficult to follow this wide ranging issue - takes a lot of time to read up on it... I already get flack from my better half about the time I spend on FR...
It’s especially hard because 0bama hides/falsifies/lies/scrubs everything about his life except his so-called memoirs or whatever the heck they’re supposed to be.
The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born subjects. Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the allegiance of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it.
Who exactly is declaring this hospital to be such a place?
LOL. Now look who's blowing smoke. Ever heard of privacy laws?
What's disingenuous is to imply that "place of birth" is poorly worded.
The records are stripped of the names.
To clarify: That is, when they are sold.
I did see a copy of it on the web. I don't have a link bookmarked, but I'm sure if you spend a few minutes on Google you will be able to find it.
My memory is a little hazey, but I believe it was a photocopy of an official copy of his long form, dated some time from the 1980s.
Anyway, there was a big bruhahaha in the MSM about him being born in the Panama Canal zone. Berg and the other guy, the ones making a stink about Obama, also made a stink about McCain. At least those crackpots were consistent, LOL.
Which effectively makes them useless for verifying medical information about any individual.
WND has been one of the principle promoters of the birther myth. They've become the Weekly World News of conservative politics. I wouldn't believe them if they said the sun would rise tomorrow unless I checked it myself.
"Dr. Polarik" is a self-admitted alias, not a real person. And you have the responsibility backwards. It is up to him to pony up his bonafides and prove his case. Not his critics to disprove him.
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