Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; Probably Not!
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the Obama Born Overseas stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didnt! Everyone assumed the other guy did it.
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue standing. They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they dont. They keep telling the courts, please dont hear this case. No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
Thats so overreaching, its like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say . Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldnt you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers .. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldnt someone have been yelling their credit for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
It’s impossible to think that Dunham ever believed that she was going to be a mother without changing a diaper. And even she realized it wasn’t going to happen on it’s own.
RFLOL! I can certainly visualize it!
Who gives a rip whether she skipped class or not - - the issue that flew over your head is the simple statement of fact that women are taught how - which is how we know. Whether O's Mom paid attention or not is moot to the above question..."And you know this HOW?"
Also noticed you failed to address another important question: Why are you so obscessed with keeping the long form hidden?
Res ipsa loquitur.
Being taught, and actually learning, are two different things, granny.
Just because she was taught does not mean she was proficient at it. Nor does it mean that should could not have benefited from some pointers offered by her friends on Mercer island.
This is so obvious, I can't believe I have to point it out.
Why are you so obscessed with keeping the long form hidden?
I'm not keeping anything hidden, dear granny. You seem to be confusing me with the Hawaii Department of Public Health. It's their policy to keep everyone's (not just Bambi's) long form private, not mine.
Now why are you so obcessed with seeing the long form? Why aren't you satistfied with the short form?
Now I know that this statute was revised in 1982. But to what extent it was actually revised I am still not sure. It could have well been minor revisions to an already existing law. I have been trying to find what the law books were saying back in '59 through '61, but it has been relatively difficult to go back that far for specific information.
Again, the logistics involved sort of mandate that kind of flexibility because Hawaii is a tiny state that is isolated out there in the Pacific. And travel in and out state becomes a necessity for just about everyone at some point or another.
This COPY serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding. [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]
§338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
(b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.
(c) Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health.
We can refer to you "Mr. Media Matters" since we all know that you are fan of the site and probably of David Brock himself.
[L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]
You know, most of those troll characteristics apply to you and your birther friends. Who is really the troll here?
Listen, David Brock, we know that’s really you. You can come out of the closet, -one more time. You’ve already been promoting your website here at FR.
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