Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; Probably Not!
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the Obama Born Overseas stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didnt! Everyone assumed the other guy did it.
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue standing. They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they dont. They keep telling the courts, please dont hear this case. No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
Thats so overreaching, its like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say . Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldnt you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers .. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldnt someone have been yelling their credit for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
It's the first of many "no standing" rulings in the 2008 Presidential election cycle. It's really rather disgusting, as it lays out the case for no ordinary citizen having standing to challenge the eligibility of a candidate for President of the United States. Heck Arnold could run and under this ruling, no ordinary citizen could challenge his eligibility.
Disgusting
The woman with this memory *was* a teacher at BHO's school in Hawaii. So she would have some reason to refresh the memory, but it would have been a minimum of 10+ years later, probably more like 15, because she was a *high school* English teacher. So the specificity is still suspect, and the death of the doctor she named still very convenient.
Doesn't look the same to me. The seal is clearly visible, as are the fold lines. Neither requires any edge detection algorithms to be visible. When I look at the lettering, in blowup, I do see the compression artifacts, as one would expect, but there are green pixels (more obvious in a reverse color version) inside and between the letters, including in the "smeared" areas caused by the compression algorithm.
Oops, another new obamanoid liar shot down. It is almost comical, if the Constitution were not being pissed upon by these Alinskyite sycophants of Obammy ‘dreams’.
Just as there are on the Obama scan.
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If anyone is pissing on the constitution it is people who want to over turn a presidential election over a fantasy. The people who stand up and say, "wait a minute, where's the evidence for this?", even though they disagree with that president's politics, *those* are the constitutional defenders. Not you.
Is the seal on that image original to the scan, or is it something Polarik pasted on?
Do get back to me, too. I am somewhat curious how the rumor that he was born in Queens hospital got started.
One individual has already bothered to call the DoH and receive answers.
I actually do know who he was because it’s been posted on this very thread, including the fact he is dead. We do have his name. We even have a woman who claims she had a conversation with him the day Obama was born and that he mentioned the fact. In other words, it did not go unnoticed despite the fact that it would not have been as interesting as many are trying to say it was.
Once again, this is drawing attention away from the real issues and makes us look stupid for pursuing them.
Does your use of the * mean that you are questioning the authenticity of the claims you are using them with? I have done some research on the lady since here article came out and she was one of his teachers and she did teach English at the high school in the 70s.
I was in 11th and 12th grade in 1961. I can remember a couple of conversations I had during that time. One was with the guy who became my husband for the last 42 years so he is a constant reminder of that one. The other was with a friend about whether I should go to Gr. 13(Ontario school system) which I did based a lot on that conversation so that makes it kind of hard to forget. I do think the woman is making up a story about the doctor though since by that time he was out of the baby delivery practice.
And it’s so convenient that she didn’t come up with this - memory - until after the good doc died... six or so months ago. Sad, that she didn’t come up with the memory a year ago when he was alive, so he could have had his say as well.
No you don't know. What you know is that one of BHO's high school teachers, Barbara Nelson claims that this doctor, , Dr. Rodney T. West who had stopped practicing in 1956, around 5 years before BHO was born, delivered BHO. Very conveniently, The Good Doctor died in February of 2008, and was still active enough in November of 2007 to be conducting book signings and greeting visitors at the USS Arizona memorial.
All photos from the November 11, 2007 Honolulu Advertiser story.
I'm doubting her claims, but not who she is. The "*" was just to give emphasis to the word "was". Not to emphasize the past tense sense of it, but rather that she did have a reason to refresh the memory, but it would have been not a couple of years later, but rather 10 years later.
Go to the Buffalo News article and read how she gushes over "Dr. Obama" (BHO Sr., who never earned PhD, only a Master's).
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