Posted on 12/24/2008 8:25:36 AM PST by Daddynoz
TITLES OF NOBILITY” AND “HONOR”
In the winter of 1983, archival research expert David Dodge, and former Baltimore police investigator Tom Dunn, were searching for evidence of government corruption in public records stored in the Belfast Library on the coast of Maine. By chance, they discovered the library’s oldest authentic copy of the Constitution of the United States (printed in 1825). Both men were stunned to see this document included a 13th Amendment that no longer appears on current copies of the Constitution. Moreover, after studying the Amendment’s language and historical context, they realized the principle intent of this “missing” 13th Amendment was to prohibit lawyers from serving in government.
So began a seven year, nationwide search for the truth surrounding the most bizarre Constitutional puzzle in American history — the unlawful removal of a ratified Amendment from the Constitution of the United States. Since 1983, Dodge and Dunn have uncovered additional copies of the Constitution with the “missing” 13th Amendment printed in at least eighteen separate publications by ten different states and territories over four decades from 1822 to 1860.
In June of this year, Dodge uncovered the evidence that this missing 13th Amendment had indeed been lawfully ratified by the state of Virginia and was therefore an authentic Amendment to the American Constitution. If the evidence is correct and no logical errors have been made, a 13th Amendment restricting lawyers from serving in government was ratified in 1819 and removed from our Constitution during the tumult of the Civil War.
Since the Amendment was never lawfully repealed, it is still the Law today. The implications are enormous.
The story of this “missing” Amendment is complex and at times confusing because the political issues and vocabulary of the American Revolution were different from our own. However, there are essentially two issues: What does the Amendment mean? and, Was the Amendment ratified? Before we consider the issue of ratification, we should first understand the Amendment’s meaning and consequent current relevance.
MEANING of the 13th Amendment
The “missing” 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.” [Emphasis added.}
At the first reading, the meaning of this 13th Amendment (also called the “title of nobility” Amendment) seems obscure, unimportant. The references to “nobility”, “honour”, “emperor”, “king”, and “prince” lead us to dismiss this amendment as a petty post-revolution act of spite directed against the British monarchy. But in our modern world of Lady Di and Prince Charles, anti-royalist sentiments seem so archaic and quaint, that the Amendment can be ignored.
Not so.
Consider some evidence of its historical significance: First, “titles of nobility” were prohibited in both Article VI of the Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Sect. 9 of the Constitution of the United States (1778); Second, although already prohibited by the Constitution, an additional “title of nobility” amendment was proposed in 1789, again in 1810, and according to Dodge, finally ratified in 1819. Clearly, the founding fathers saw such a serious threat in “titles of nobility” and “honors” that anyone receiving them would forfeit their citizenship. Since the government prohibited “titles of nobility” several times over four decades, and went through the amending process (even though “titles of nobility” were already prohibited by the Constitution), it’s obvious that the Amendment carried much more significance for our founding fathers than is readily apparent today.
SIGNIFICANCE OF REMOVAL
To create the present oligarchy (rule by lawyers) which we now endure, the lawyers first had to remove the 13th “titles of nobility” Amendment that might otherwise have kept them in check. In fact, it was not until after the Civil War and after the disappearance of this 13th Amendment, that American bar associations began to appear and exercise political power.
Since the unlawful deletion of the 13th Amendment, the newly developing bar associations began working diligently to create a system wherein lawyers took on a title of privilege and nobility as “Esquires” and received the “honor” of offices and positions (like district attorney or judge) that only lawyers may now hold. By virtue of these titles, honors, and special privileges, lawyers have assumed political and economic advantages over the majority of U.S. citizens. Through these privileges, they have nearly established a two-tiered citizenship in this nation where a majority may vote, but only a minority (lawyers) may run for political office. This twotiered citizenship is clearly contrary to Americans’ political interests, the nation’s economic welfare, and the Constitution’s egalitarian spirit.
The significance of this missing 13th Amendment and its deletion from the Constitution is this: Since the amendment was never lawfully nullified, it is still in full force and effect and is the Law of the land. If public support could be awakened, this missing Amendment might provide a legal basis to challenge many existing laws and court decisions previously made by lawyers who were unconstitutionally elected or appointed to their positions of power; it might even mean the removal of lawyers from our current government system.
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
When the Queen of England conferred upon me the title of Esquire at my law school graduation I was promised no one would ever find the suppressed 13th Amendment. Now that the secret is out that we’re all foreign nobility I will lose my state job. Thanks a lot. Oh well, I guess I’ll just live on the revenues from my estate in Kent. At least Obama is out of the Whilte House. Cheerio!
http://www.amendment-13.org/ratifications.html
Doesn’t look like it garnered the the required ratification in 3/4 state houses
She also extracted an oath that I would have to post multiple times if the matter ever came up. (sorry, I don’t know why it wasn’t showing the posts going through!)
OK. I think we get it.
:-)
If any Citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any Title of Nobility or Honour, or shall, without the Consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, Pension, Office or Emolument of any kind whatever, from any Emperor, King, Prince or foreign Power, such Person shall cease to be a Citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any Office of Trust or Profit under them, or either of them.
IMHO this reads that one’s citizenship is voided if the title of nobility or honor is received from a foreign entity, king, emperor, etc. I don’t see that it applies to titles of honor received by an organization in the U.S.
... but I’m not an expert.
Article V of the Constitution requires that an amendment be ratified by three quarters of the states, so ratification by Virginia alone would not have made this proposed amendment (assuming it was lawfully proposed) effective.
That little "detail" aside, it is a real stretch to read into this a complete bar on lawyers in government, whatever "contemporary disgruntlement" there might have been.
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
Please tell me how this excludes lawyers.
you can’t inherit the title of “lawyer” or esquire.
It is akin to M.D., a educational degree that is earned.
No official can superceed a failing grade on a bar examination. (remember how many times john john kennedy took the bar exam?)
I think this is more about people being superstitious about the number 13. All the law library references resources to the constitution. (ie http://www.findlaw.com ) have the full compliment of PASSED amendments.
“Since the unlawful deletion of the 13th Amendment, the newly developing bar associations began working diligently to create a system wherein lawyers took on a title of privilege and nobility as “Esquires” and received the “honor” of offices and positions (like district attorney or judge) that only lawyers may now hold. By virtue of these titles, honors, and special privileges, lawyers have assumed political and economic advantages over the majority of U.S. citizens. Through these privileges, they have nearly established a two-tiered citizenship in this nation where a majority may vote, but only a minority (lawyers) may run for political office. This twotiered citizenship is clearly contrary to Americans’ political interests, the nation’s economic welfare, and the Constitution’s egalitarian spirit.”
I don’t argue with the author’s logic here. I don’t think the government should license any profession, really. But what does this have to do with the language of the supposed amendment as quoted? Can this guy read?
Read the amendment as written, then read it again. What sort of twisted legal argument could be based on this clause (if it were real) that would make it apply to lawyers? Of course, the author proceeds to give it. We’re supposed to believe that it was intended that all lawyers have their citizenship revoked? Come’on.
The "Messiah" had best be careful with that label...even if he is an illegal alien from Kenya and a major league commie scam artist.
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Thanks stockpirate. Something about this story leaks water.Both men were stunned to see this document included a 13th Amendment that no longer appears on current copies of the Constitution. Moreover, after studying the Amendment's language and historical context, they realized the principle intent of this "missing" 13th Amendment was to prohibit lawyers from serving in government. So began a seven year, nationwide search for the truth surrounding the most bizarre Constitutional puzzle in American history -- the unlawful removal of a ratified Amendment from the Constitution of the United States. Since 1983, Dodge and Dunn have uncovered additional copies of the Constitution with the "missing" 13th Amendment printed in at least eighteen separate publications by ten different states and territories over four decades from 1822 to 1860.To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. |
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Thanks CB.
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