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Supreme Court rejects Obama case
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

too bad


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 911truth; bho; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; cfr; choomgang; colb; conspiracy; conspiracytheories; conspiracytheorists; conspiracytheory; deathofthewest; donofrio; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; pok; ronpaul; ruling; scotus; tinfoil; tinfoilhats; ussc
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To: Pravious

Not sad I think that way. Sad that it’s true, but it has always, always been true. The law always is what the vast majority of people are willing to obey. The rest may be letters on a page, but it ain’t the law unless the vast majority are willing to uphold it.


421 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:37 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: BP2

Leo mentions on his web site that he had more time to help Cort with his case so it may be a better case. He also said Cort’s case was cleaner in CT lower courts. The judge in NJ’s lower courts changed the paperwork after the fact to try to derail Leo’s case. Leo is not sure if this harmed his case but obviously that the was th NJ judges intent.

There may also be some hope becase Scalia has Cort’s case and apears to be carefully reviewing it. I am not saying Thomas did not review Leo’s but Leo has detected some differences in the way it may have been handled by the clerks or something.


422 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:42 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: andy58-in-nh

All you’re really doing is proving that your claim is specious.


423 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Hey Horowitz! Just because we don't swing left doesn't mean we're "unhinged".)
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To: Knitebane

424 posted on 12/08/2008 9:57:07 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: cmj328

And Hitler, Austrian.


425 posted on 12/08/2008 9:57:22 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Mojave

He had one that he showed a court in Hawaii.


426 posted on 12/08/2008 9:57:29 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
He had one that he showed a court in Hawaii.

Cite, please.

427 posted on 12/08/2008 9:58:19 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: luvadavi

The people in Ohio are in a desperate circumstance. The GOP gave away those votes by shoving unfair trade down our throats.


428 posted on 12/08/2008 9:58:25 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Mojave

Hey! Where’d you get my Faber yearbook photo?


429 posted on 12/08/2008 9:59:12 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: LS

Considering the USSC refused to give hearing and verify that most basic requirement of any candidate for POTUS, the Court, “with a deafening silence,” stated thus: the United States Constitution is officially dead. No person in this nation has legal standing to challenge anything about anyone. The precepts written in the Constitution mean only whatever men want those words to mean at the time and for their own convenience.

We are now a nation governed by the whims of men, and not by immutable law. Under such bondage, any policy, Barak Obama effects as president, will stand indisputable, because those having the courage and resources to make challenge will come against an impenetrable wall of indifference, even at the highest levels of authority.

Those citizens, whom we imagined made of sterner metal, will prove themselves kowtowing poltroons, offering the convenient excuse “we must work in the system”… an arrangement they know no longer exists, though they are unwilling to state such openly. Men will suffer every conceivable infringement and insult to their liberties, so long as such is sufferable. To preserve fleeting material treasure, to hold their vain imagining of security, they will gladly sell their fellows into bondage. I opine such individuals are fools.

A government of foreign agents, charlatans, and their useful idiots shall control every aspect of our daily lives, and we are powerless to bring redress, save by force of arms. However, that inalienable Right will soon be “redefined” abridged and stripped of all vigor… because we as a people have surrendered our virtue and vigilance. We who believe and follow the precepts of the Constitution shall be considered outlaws. We are even now, though perhaps unawares, “enemies of the State.”

Welcome to fascism. Welcome to the Police State USA.


430 posted on 12/08/2008 9:59:33 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: luvadavi

You raise a valid point: Roe v. Wade, contrary to what most Freepers might think, is a classic example of the fact that regardless of what the USSC says the constitution says, Americans get what they want: most Americans favor some access to early abortion; a much larger majority favor strong restrictions in the second and third trimester. A no man’s land has emerged in which most of the victories on either side are at the margin-—executive orders about military basis, PBA, and so on. So you have a network of laws, regardless of what the constitution says, that elevates a right to privacy above some people’s right to life, and so far that has been perfectly acceptable to the large majority.


431 posted on 12/08/2008 9:59:47 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: real_patriotic_american

Thanks for the info!


432 posted on 12/08/2008 10:00:33 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: autumnraine
I see that, but again: there is no proof that Obama was not born in Hawaii, and that is what needs to be presented to overcome the presumption of legitimacy according the certified copy of his birth certificate.

Again, I'm not saying it's real or fake, only that what I've seen is speculation rather than anything approaching proof. My larger concern is that this issue is in reality only a technicality, and one that threatens to distract us in the same manner that the whole "Bush Stole The Election/Selected-Not-Elected" meme consumed the Democrats for more than four years.

433 posted on 12/08/2008 10:00:43 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: TommyDale

Ok. Good enough. I will remove you from my “kook list.” But remember, he doesn’t have to prove anything. Those bringing the suits have the burden of “pwoof.”


434 posted on 12/08/2008 10:00:43 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: luvadavi

I like the platform of the American Independent Party. Now, would its leadership in the future be wowed by DC social acceptance or would they actually have the stones to stand up for said platform???


435 posted on 12/08/2008 10:00:52 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: EternalVigilance
It think your post pretty much sums it all up.

I would only remind others of the following:

1. The supremes did not rule on the merits.
2. SCOTUS is not infallible and has made unconstitutional ruling before.
3. There other cases that still have potential.
4. If BHO is ever proven to be a natural born citizen, all of us who demanded proof would not be losers, but we and the nation would be winners because we made sure that the constitution was abided by.
5. If BHO is found not to be eligible, even 3 years form now, he must be removed from office. He would be illegitimate and no one, including the military, would be legally able to take orders from him. I also believe that Biden would be an illegitimate successor. As nauseating as it is to think, Peolsi (if she is still around) would be next in line. However, I think that the only proper work around would be to install Pelosi as interim president until the congress as constituted at the time of the 2008 election, can reconvene to elect a new president. Of course the SCOTUS would most likely have to get involved...that is if anyone if the federal government has shred of patriotism left in them.

..or BHO can come clean and settle the matter one way or another right now...but that would take patriotism, ethics, concern for the nation and honesty...he is incabable of any of these.

436 posted on 12/08/2008 10:01:16 AM PST by SerafinQ
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To: Gary Johnson in 2012

What conspiracy?


437 posted on 12/08/2008 10:01:18 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Sibre Fan
I think that it’s not listed under “Cert Denied” because it was an application, which Donofrio requested to be treated as a Writ Petition. If they denied the application, that means that they denied his request to treat it as a cert.

You are correct. If you look at the docket, you will see that Donofrio never actually filed a petition for a writ of certiorari, but apparently instead through correspondence asked that the emergency writ be also treated as the cert petition.

438 posted on 12/08/2008 10:01:31 AM PST by hankbrown
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To: mquinn
You're welcome to “move-on” if you'd like, however, the Constitution clearly states he must be a natural born citizen, and until he proves it, he is illegitimate.
439 posted on 12/08/2008 10:01:57 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: bronxboy

“He had one that he showed a court in Hawaii.”


Not true. The ONLY case in which Obama has been directly involved (through his lawyers), at least so far, is the Berg case.

Obama filed NO papers in Donofrio, or Wrotnowski, or Martin, or any of the other cases, at least so far. Those cases were brought against state officials, not against Obama.


440 posted on 12/08/2008 10:02:26 AM PST by Sibre Fan
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