How long do we have to wear the helmet?
Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment
too bad
“DONOFRIO, LEO C. V. WELLS, NJ SEC. OF STATE
The application for stay addressed to Justice Thomas and referred to the Court is denied.
and the reason was... “
yeah, no explanation to boot. Cowards. I might run out of fingers and toes trying to count reasons this should have been taken on, especially given Donofrio’s non-partisan inclusion of the McCain matter.
Hawaii’s infamous box 7C (potential- I’ll put it that way-state citizenship without full US birthright citizenship-I’ll put it that way-until 1972) is reason alone to pursue.
Donofrio can now at least see record of submission from (if it was scuttled in) NJ or(even more remote chance) by Danny “I AM the Supreme Court” Bickle.
Next case...
thanks for the ping STARWISE
To the contrary, when the minority of Justices feel strongly about an issue, they DO file dissents. For decades in obscenity cases, a four-Justice minority would file sometimes lengthy dissents, ending with the correct point that they could have forced the Court to hear the case. (Only four Justices need to vote yes to grant certiorari so the Court takes up a particular case.)
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Ya think anyone will challenge the vote on 6 January??? United States Code provides for it, if 1 Senator and 1 Representative sign an objection.
Also, the Code states that the bodies will retire to their respective chambers to resolve the objection, but does NOT specify how ... by vote?
We may not get the White House back for many years. The republicans had the game won, had the ball in their hands, were driving down the field, and the quarterback, George W. Bush, fumbled his hand off and the liberals recovered and drove for the winning TD. The republicans in congress fumbled that handoff and the QB just stood there and asked the nose tackle for the liberals, 385 pound Ted Kennedy to help him sign an education bill and Ted said sure. So, the republicans have lost the game, lost the season, and probably lost for several seasons. I would call the republicans, the Oakland Raiders of politics. The Raiders are a disfunctional team and so are the republicans. We are in deep Obama and I see very little chance too get out of it. They are way behind in the House, and now way behind in the Senate in seats. Went from a majority in both to the bottom of the pit. Now I know how the Russian peasants felt standing there looking across the wire at freedom in the west.
Remember that this case was not about the BC.
However, I am starting to realize that the SCOTUS doesn’t want to act as an investigative body. Therefore, the whole issue of a BC becomes moot because no one can compel Obama to produce a BC except a court; which none will do....even the SCOTUS. So, without compeling evidence (a BC) the SCOTUS won’t hear the case....but it takes the SCOTUS or other court to force the release of the BC to provide compleing evidence.
If ever there was a Catch 22 this is it!!!!!
Will be watching the Press Conference today at 1:00 at the Washington Press Club. Cort’s case and Keyes case still pending.
Maybe now the FR will REGAIN a bit of its sanity and PURPOSE? Another “I told you So...” :(
What would that purpose be? Regardless of SCOTUS outcomes on the many cases that will be coming, IMHO, this topic did not violate the purpose of FR (listed below):
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I think all it is is that his real father is Frank Marshall Davis. And if Jeremiah Wright didn't hurt him, the Davis revelation wouldn't, either. Just makes his Africa story look silly, but the public doesn't seem to care about that, anyway.
It will be pursued in other states.
It’s not entirely surprising. The Court has been pretty much ignoring the Constitution until the days of Earl Warren.
But I did have some hope that FOUR justices would vote to look at it, which would have been enough to put it on the docket. Evidently not even that many. Or maybe Stevens told them he would never vote against Obama, so they decided it was pointless to stir things up without a majority on board.
Whatever you think of abortion, Roe v. Wade was one of a number of important SCOTUS decisions that were made up of whole cloth, without the faintest shadow or penumbra of support from the Constitution. So they’re getting in the habit of ignoring their oaths and ignoring the Constitution they swore to uphold.
You said — Well duh. How often does the U.S. Supreme Court hear lawsuits brought on by conspiracy theorists and their latest “cause”?
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Well..., the thing is that they don’t give a reason or don’t hear cases for a lot of cases — one way or the other, legitimate or not. So, by them not giving a reason or a basis doesn’t really address whether the issue is a good issue or a conspiracy or what not. The Supreme Court simply doesn’t say, that’s all...
Explain to me why he simply does not produce his original birth certificate?
There is a reason worth spending the money and effort his legal staff has expended.
This is not imaginary.
de Texas Fossil
SCROTU denied the stay. I’m probably grasping at straws but does that imply other aspects of the case are still under consideration or was that part and parcel of the whole case?
“The Donofrio case also questioned McCain’s eligibility.”
My take on mccain’s situation is that he is the exception that disproves the rule, in that he was definitely born in a foreign country (not in the canal zone, wikipedia lies, but a mile outside of it in Colon, Panama), and thus is not natural born as per original intent, BUT that the founders certainly did not imagine permanent military bases across the world, annexing part of spanish central america for 75 years, etc., and if they had, I can only speculate that a child born to a US family military temporarily (a few years etc) overseas would have not been intended to be excluded.
The issue is so heavily politicized now, of course, that I doubt we will get any rational ruling from scotus on the topic in general for a long time.
I guess the Terminator can be the POTUS now since Obama’s refusal to prove via his vault copy BC that he is natural born now give precedent for any future Terminator to run...
hmmm maybe the Rats will run an OSAMA illegitimate child born in 1980 somewhere outside the U.S. and then brought to Hawaii by his American citizen mother who was impregnated by UBL in an Afghani cave while prepping for the 1993 and subsequent 911 attacks on the wtc.
Its just so ludacris right?
I don't think it was nearly so dramatic, nor time consuming. He simply said "NO" and let the system take over. His crony in the Governor's office in Hawaii simply said "NO" and from that moment it was a done deal. Nobody fought anything from there on except those who fought to see the document! They spent an incredible amount of effort, time and money to see the document. Obama and the Governor of Hawaii ignored them like they'd ignore a pesky insect buzzing around the ears. Then the USSC slapped that pesky insect for even trying to create a "buzz."
I do not believe a dissent is written for an application for a writ of certiorari.
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In fact, such a dissent is quite unusual.
that the majority of the justices could find no way around the merits of the case which a hearing would have demonstrated.
Ping.
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