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I wonder if this birthplace question, which won't go away, is why Obama, the Kenyan, has looked so distracted lately.
1 posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:10 PM PST by solfour
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To: solfour

who you are missing here?
The veterans.

American legion,VFW,etc. Get them on board then see what happens!


363 posted on 11/14/2008 11:08:24 PM PST by OL Hickory (hear that sound..its a hammer hitting the nail on its head!!)
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To: solfour

I’m telling you right now that if this man is declared inelligible to be President, there will be riots in the streets.


364 posted on 11/14/2008 11:08:48 PM PST by Pinkbell (Liberals are only tolerant of those with whom they agree.)
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The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

I just looked on the Hawaii Department of Health website. The only type of birth record that one can request from them is a "certified copy" of a birth certificate, which I think is the type of document that Obama has previously displayed. (Personally I believe that this is a real document.)

So what is really being requested here is that Obama "order" that the original vault copy of his birth certificate be displayed. Various speculative theories hold that this original certificate will reveal information not on the modern "certified copy" and that this additional information will somehow disqualify him.

Perhaps Obama could request that the Hawaii DOH take the unusual step of somehow displaying his original birth certificate (which they apparently never do for anyone else), but he can't "order" the DOH to do so, since he has no authority over them.

Perhaps a court could do so, but wouldn't it have to be an Hawaiian court?

379 posted on 11/14/2008 11:24:41 PM PST by wideminded
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To: solfour

It would be such a treat if Keyes actually succeeded in his suit. Obama was very hostile towards him.


395 posted on 11/14/2008 11:38:32 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: solfour

Join the Church of Barack Obama

http://thechurchofbarackobama.blogspot.com/

The Holy Grail has been keep in Ted Kennedy’s liquor cabinet for decades. It will be washed and filled with Cool aid for the mighty Messiah Barack Obama.


399 posted on 11/14/2008 11:41:53 PM PST by Animaltrout (http://thechurchofbarackobama.blogspot.com/)
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There is nobody left in our government with the spine to fight for the Constitution, least of all in the judiciary.

Oaths of office are meaningless and empty when nobody even cares what the answer to this issue is, but rather it's viewed as a silly and obtuse waste of time.

Come to think of it, more and more Americans view the Constitution the same way: an obtuse waste of time.

440 posted on 11/15/2008 1:37:37 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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I can’t believe I haven’t run into this website before now. I feel like I’ve found a long lost friend! You guys are awesome. :)


471 posted on 11/15/2008 5:58:29 AM PST by tisonlyi
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To: solfour
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

Obama has had two years to conjur up the best forged birth certificate that (campaign) money can buy - and if he is foreign-born, I'd be willing to bet he's already got it standing by just in case.

IMO this withholding the certificate is about something else. But what, I'm not sure.

506 posted on 11/15/2008 7:17:00 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: solfour; Jim Robinson

An in camera review by a judge would keep any embarassing details that have no constitutional implications private, while confirming the geographical location of Obama’s birth.

What is the mechanism to enforce the constitutional mandate regarding the citizenship status of a president? Does a candidate have to prove his citiznship status, and to whom? If not, why not? If the proof submitted is dubious, who has standing to challenge it?

And given the practical realities of how we elect our presidents, isn’t the time to settle such questions prior to the election itself?


508 posted on 11/15/2008 7:19:25 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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I honestly do not see this issue going anywhere. If Obama were suddenly declared a non-American, thus the election null and void, the Watts Riots would look like a Sunday school picnic compared to the total riot that would break out on the left and by Dimocrats. Then the issue would go to the Supreme Court. THEN it is how Kennedy votes that would decide. If he decided with the conservatives and Obama was kicked out on a 5-4 vote, the dims would come unglued and the riots would continue to burn. Obama would add fuel to the fire by declaring the white men in the Supremes denied the black man his rightful place.
514 posted on 11/15/2008 7:28:34 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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I’m a realist. I realize nothing will be done on this. Obama will be sworn in etc. Having said that we should continue to push this issue even after he’s elected. Continue the mantra that he is an illegitimate President. In fact we should just generally muck up the works wherever we can even if it doesn’t appear to bear fruit. Politics is about perceptions.


518 posted on 11/15/2008 7:58:18 AM PST by plain talk
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To: solfour

Incorrect title by the author. The constitution is clear on this.
what they have is an Innaugural Crisis.


524 posted on 11/15/2008 8:25:40 AM PST by omega4179 (FULL MOON OR JUST MASS INSANITY.)
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You can add fraud, and conspiracy to commit felony fraud, to the mix, as I am set to publish how Obama, his Campaign and Annenberg (via Factcheck.org) conspired to make the American public, public officials, and the media, believe that the fraudulent document images and photographs they created and promulgated were made from Obama's genuine Certification of Live Birth.

His true birth location is still a mystery (as well as the identity of his true biological father), but their fraudulent actions are a done deal.

What they did is no different than if someone copied a $1 bill on a color copier and tried to pass it off as the real thing, or pasted their photo over someone else's drivers license and used it, or even if someone held up a bank with a toy gun.

539 posted on 11/15/2008 9:23:32 AM PST by Polarik
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To: solfour

Was Barack Obama born an American citizen simply by virtue of the fact that his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth?


544 posted on 11/15/2008 9:35:51 AM PST by dbz77
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ping


566 posted on 11/15/2008 10:05:37 AM PST by Ulysse (.)
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gnip...


570 posted on 11/15/2008 10:08:33 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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The law is the and if this scenario is true there rally is no argument

It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason: Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after*. In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

578 posted on 11/15/2008 10:22:14 AM PST by jetson
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583 posted on 11/15/2008 10:30:25 AM PST by EveningStar
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Isn’t this all moot? He was born in the United States, right? Hawaii was a state in ‘61.

I don’t like him, either, but this doesn’t seem to hold water.


585 posted on 11/15/2008 10:31:42 AM PST by pa mom
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The Constitution is not in crisis, Obamunist Birth Certificate is.


589 posted on 11/15/2008 10:36:12 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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