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To: solfour
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

I just looked on the Hawaii Department of Health website. The only type of birth record that one can request from them is a "certified copy" of a birth certificate, which I think is the type of document that Obama has previously displayed. (Personally I believe that this is a real document.)

So what is really being requested here is that Obama "order" that the original vault copy of his birth certificate be displayed. Various speculative theories hold that this original certificate will reveal information not on the modern "certified copy" and that this additional information will somehow disqualify him.

Perhaps Obama could request that the Hawaii DOH take the unusual step of somehow displaying his original birth certificate (which they apparently never do for anyone else), but he can't "order" the DOH to do so, since he has no authority over them.

Perhaps a court could do so, but wouldn't it have to be an Hawaiian court?

379 posted on 11/14/2008 11:24:41 PM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded
I just looked on the Hawaii Department of Health website. The only type of birth record that one can request from them is a "certified copy" of a birth certificate, which I think is the type of document that Obama has previously displayed. (Personally I believe that this is a real document.)

That was a Certification of Live Birth, and it's not a copy of anything, it's a data dump of information retrieved from the DoH database.

But I think it is possible to get a certified copy of the original Birth Certificate, which would look like this, pretty much any way, this one is from 1963, and the copy was made in 1968, while Obama's presumably is from 1961.

rather than like this Certification of Live Birth:

The above is likely a manipulated image, one with the data taken off electronically, rather than an image of a blank form.

559 posted on 11/15/2008 9:53:27 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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