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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: jackv
Justice Souter says he must present his BC by Dec. 1st. So what happens if he doesn’t???

What law enforcement body backs up the Supreme Court? What officers are in that particular Court House? Are there special police that deal with such matters. Surely not the "capitol police."

501 posted on 11/15/2008 7:11:20 AM PST by madison10
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To: fieldmarshaldj
They know what’s happening, they’re just not doing anything about it. Like the Chicago PD in the ‘20s and ‘30s.

I'm sure you left out '40s, '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s, '90s, et al. Chicago PD hasn't changed during the entire reign of the Daly 'family'. If anything it has gotten worse, allowing ACORN, gypsies, and other 'children of crime' the run of the city. only the feds are snipping at crime in the 2nd city...locals watch and laugh as corruption grows more entrenched every day. Perhaps if we move that corruption to Washington, the local non-criminal element can get their city back....

502 posted on 11/15/2008 7:12:10 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: Lmo56
Umm, are you assuming that the Dems will actually play this by the rules?

Silly rabbit, Trix are for Dems.

They'll raise a battle cry and call it a racist attack against the will of the people and demand that we waive the requirement just this once.

Obammie the Commie will use the waiving of the requirement itself as further proof of a mandate for his communist agenda.

503 posted on 11/15/2008 7:13:27 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are useful idiots. They are the pawns of Leftists.)
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To: Kenny

Alan Keyes is a great American. Period.


504 posted on 11/15/2008 7:15:37 AM PST by romanesq
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To: April Lexington
I remember all through the 80’s how he tried to push as much anti-firearm legislation as he could. His name was always coming up.

And he's the third most liberal member of the senate if I remember correctly.

This country is screwed no matter what. The next 4 years are going to be bad. McCain would have made it slightly less bad, but remember his Gang of 14 and all the legislation he sponsored that supported the liberal Democrat agenda.

505 posted on 11/15/2008 7:16:33 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Camelot? JFK hated communism. Obama is a communist.)
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To: solfour
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

Obama has had two years to conjur up the best forged birth certificate that (campaign) money can buy - and if he is foreign-born, I'd be willing to bet he's already got it standing by just in case.

IMO this withholding the certificate is about something else. But what, I'm not sure.

506 posted on 11/15/2008 7:17:00 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: dan1123
Our guy is blacker than their guy.

Our guy (Dr. Keyes) is:

Smarter

More educated

More erudite

More American

More qualified

Don't care about the melanin.

507 posted on 11/15/2008 7:18:20 AM PST by FrogMom (Lord, help us all!)
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To: solfour; Jim Robinson

An in camera review by a judge would keep any embarassing details that have no constitutional implications private, while confirming the geographical location of Obama’s birth.

What is the mechanism to enforce the constitutional mandate regarding the citizenship status of a president? Does a candidate have to prove his citiznship status, and to whom? If not, why not? If the proof submitted is dubious, who has standing to challenge it?

And given the practical realities of how we elect our presidents, isn’t the time to settle such questions prior to the election itself?


508 posted on 11/15/2008 7:19:25 AM PST by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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To: All
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509 posted on 11/15/2008 7:19:33 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: HKMk23

True


510 posted on 11/15/2008 7:20:03 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: April Lexington
The people will not stand for such an egregious violation of our constitution.

Which people? They have "allowed" many egregious violation of our constitution.

511 posted on 11/15/2008 7:21:33 AM PST by FrogMom (Lord, help us all!)
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To: cookcounty
Governor Lingle (R) has denied she "sealed" the file. However, the law states that only the selfsame person (Obama) can ask to have it released.

My understanding is that the Governor is just trying to keep any hanky-panky from going on. It is still available, following the established rules, i.e. only the selfsame person.

512 posted on 11/15/2008 7:22:03 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sara Palin: Americas' last, best hope for survival.)
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To: April Lexington
Obama is a fraud. We need to order psychiatric testing for the 52% of Americans who voted for this flim flam artist. What were they thinking???

Well. IIRC and ran the numbers right (but it was early after the election), someone correct my numbers if out in left field, 52% of the VOTING population selected him. If only 34% (or thereabouts) of the eligible voters actually voted, then about 18% of this country elected this fraud.

513 posted on 11/15/2008 7:25:43 AM PST by FrogMom (Lord, help us all!)
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To: solfour
I honestly do not see this issue going anywhere. If Obama were suddenly declared a non-American, thus the election null and void, the Watts Riots would look like a Sunday school picnic compared to the total riot that would break out on the left and by Dimocrats. Then the issue would go to the Supreme Court. THEN it is how Kennedy votes that would decide. If he decided with the conservatives and Obama was kicked out on a 5-4 vote, the dims would come unglued and the riots would continue to burn. Obama would add fuel to the fire by declaring the white men in the Supremes denied the black man his rightful place.
514 posted on 11/15/2008 7:28:34 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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To: jackv

“Justice Souter says he must present his BC by Dec. 1st. So what happens if he doesn’t???””


For the record, Justice Souther did NOT say that he must present his BC by Dec 1st. That is an unfounded and untrue rumor.
Justice Souter gave Obama’s attorneys a December 1st deadline to respond via legal arguements to Phillip Berg’s request for a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari.
A petition for a Writ of Certiorari is fancy legalese for “please US Supreme Court, take my case on appeal.”
Souter will review Berg’s petition, then he will review Obama’s attorneys reasons for NOT taking the case, then he will decide whether or not to try to get three other Supreme Court Justices to hear the case.

It takes four Justices to agree for the Supreme Court to hear a case on appeal. Presenting Obama’s birth certificate in response to a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari is NOT going to happen however Obama’s lawyers might choose to include sworn affadivits in their filing for Justice Souter from the two Hawaii Department of Health officials who have seen Obama’s “vault copy” birth certificate and verified that it is genuine.


515 posted on 11/15/2008 7:31:27 AM PST by jamese777
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To: FreeAtlanta
The biggest question is why, with all these court cases and some going as high as the Supreme Court, are they not being covered by the mainstream media?

The MSM has their standard reply: "This is a hoax. The suits are nuisance suits. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and has shown his Certificate of Live Birth online. Fact Check checked it." I don't expect any help from them.
516 posted on 11/15/2008 7:40:12 AM PST by Genoa
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To: jamese777

bttt


517 posted on 11/15/2008 7:48:50 AM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: solfour

I’m a realist. I realize nothing will be done on this. Obama will be sworn in etc. Having said that we should continue to push this issue even after he’s elected. Continue the mantra that he is an illegitimate President. In fact we should just generally muck up the works wherever we can even if it doesn’t appear to bear fruit. Politics is about perceptions.


518 posted on 11/15/2008 7:58:18 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Notwithstanding
And given the practical realities of how we elect our presidents, isn’t the time to settle such questions prior to the election itself?

One would think a free and unbiased press would demand proof of eligibility during the campaign process, especially where the issue has been raised and insufficiently responded to. Unfortunately this has been demonstrated to be a mistaken assumption. A government solution such as FEC certification may not be the answer since the whole system seems to have been corrupted.

My guess is that the powers that be have decided that the very real possibility of serious civil insurrection in the event Obama is belatedly found to be ineligible means the issue must be stonewalled at all costs.

519 posted on 11/15/2008 7:59:43 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: cherry

‘” why can’t we see any candidate’s birth certificate?”
-——don’t you get it? You JUST CAN’T!!
A birth certificate is a paltry temporal human document.
Would you ask to see the birth certificates of Jesus or
Mohammed? NO! The proof of their birth exists in sacred texts called the BIBLE and the KORAN.
Likewise all we need to know about Obama exists in
DREAMS FROM MY FATHER.
Now, SUBMIT, or ELSE. And STOP asking mundane questions


520 posted on 11/15/2008 8:11:20 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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