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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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To: arrogantsob

I don’t think I ever claimed the announcements noted place of birth; I have seen both and can definitely say neither posits place of birth.

However, those notices were NOT placed in the paper by relatives. They were collected by the papers from the Vital Records Bureau each week and printed on Sunday. The heading at the top of the column in one paper reads “Health Bureau Statistics.” The papers did not gather statistics from other countries.


1,761 posted on 11/17/2008 12:59:49 PM PST by pa mom
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To: hoosiermama; Chief Engineer; seekthetruth; little jeremiah; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; riverdawg; ...

sponsors. Leahy, Obama, Coburn, Clinton, Webb. and Claire McKaskill

It seemed that Res.511 ultimately became the “sense of the Senate” resolution that was adopted or was the bill that was introduced to amend Sec. 1401.
This Resolution that he had McKaskil introduce, ostensibly to support McCain, was in fact to address -—> Obama’s problem.

Since we all know how well Congressmen keep their secrets, we have to wonder who else knows, besides Michelle, ...Pelosi, Reed, Feinstein, Boxer Schumer.....ad nauseum?

1. The “Sense of the Senate” resolution 511 that passed was a direction from the Senate to the Supreme Court to ‘guide them how to rule’ if the issue ever reaches their Court. (An antagonistic approach towards the court, IMHO.)

2. The resolution originated from 1 of 3 bills originally intended to be actual legislation.

3. Although McKaskill (closely aligned to BO) introduced the bills, a careful analysis of the the bill’s trail is clear it originated from the Senator from across the Mississippi residing in Illinois, rather than Missouri.

4. As originally presented by Obama, the bill went far beyond addressing McCain’s situation.

5. It addressed the eligibility under Article II, Sec. 1, Par. 4 of any citizen who was born outside the US, which is —>Obama’s problem.

6. After learning this, it is reasonable to assume that Obama has been engaged for many years in an intentional fraudulent effort to conceal the true circumstances of his birth.

7. This bill did not pass as a self-serving resolution and legally it sounds incredible that such a bill could be supplanted to undermine the Consitution and thus ignore the amendment process and grant retroactive legislation.

If someone could layout the progressive facts of obfuscating that has occurred; including the actions of the Senator, Res 511, Passport Gate, the erasure and scrubbing of multiple links tracing to Africa, concealed birth records, concealed educational & work records, forgeries on the web, trips to Hawaii (followed by appearance relaeases of documentation), the ‘false facts’ that litter the Senator’s biographies and the controlled access to viable witnesses from both Continents.........it would be great!


1,762 posted on 11/17/2008 1:03:00 PM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

If the president elect is found to be unqualified the VP is shown in as ACTING president until a person is qualified. As this stands the House would have to vote for McCain since he is the only other person receiving EV. The choice must come from the top three EV getters: McCain, McCain or McCain.


1,763 posted on 11/17/2008 1:03:34 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Boardwalk

If this story ever got 1/100th the media attention that the Schiavo case did I will be astonished.


1,764 posted on 11/17/2008 1:06:48 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: ScottinVA

“From what I’ve read it sounds like there are suits coming up in at least 10 states now.”

“It would be nice if those would be the states with the most electoral votes.”

Yes, I heard there is one in my state of FL and will be looking into it.

Sorry to say my sister was one of the 37% voters in your county who voted for Obama because she was blinded by his hope and change! Made me ill!!


1,765 posted on 11/17/2008 1:07:32 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: ODDITHER

One cannot become a Natural born citizen through adoption.


1,766 posted on 11/17/2008 1:09:01 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: ScottinVA
It would be nice if those would be the states with the most electoral votes.

NY, CA, VA, OH, WA and PA are among the states where suits have been brought.

1,767 posted on 11/17/2008 1:12:03 PM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: arrogantsob

“Though you have no way of verifying even if such a case exists you are willing to use a “ruling” from a possibly non-existent case to make a point? Curious.”


Oh, its not all that curious.
I don’t make the news, I just post it for purposes of discussion.
I’m sure that whether or not the Virginia case is real will be revealed in due course.
Look at all the inaccurate internet rumors that Supreme Court Justice David Souter has demanded that Obama produce his vault copy birth certificate by December 1st. Google it and count the stories.


1,768 posted on 11/17/2008 1:13:06 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Canadian Outrage

Not that is not true. If BO is unqualified then Biden is sworn in as acting President subject to a qualified person being elected. That would be McCain since no one else has any EV for president.


1,769 posted on 11/17/2008 1:19:13 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: I got the rope

You should take your own advice. Pelosi would not be president in this case. See my above post.


1,770 posted on 11/17/2008 1:20:51 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: jamese777

Since the birth certificate is sealed for everyone but family, why don’t we pay some family member to get access to the document? We could fly out his brother in Kenya who lives on 1$ a year.
Pass this suggestion along to other blogs or lawyers.


1,771 posted on 11/17/2008 1:20:53 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: Gemsbok

I didn’t realize Obama himself was involved in Res. 511. Isn’t that interesting!


1,772 posted on 11/17/2008 1:21:13 PM PST by livius
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To: pa mom

As I said the announcements are tangential and do not interest me.

Another of your comments was about the ability to unseal state record through court order. It is commonplace and hardly sets a precedent.

Zero won the Senate seat because the California divorce records of his Republican opponent were unsealed by court order. And those records had only one use; to beat the Republican. No constitutional interests were involved.


1,773 posted on 11/17/2008 1:24:53 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: arrogantsob

“You did not address browardchad’s point at all. Merely repeating what he contradicted does nothing for your argument.”


Browardchad was nice enough to quote the Director of the Hawaii Health Department directly and make my point for me. No further rebuttal from me was needed.
I’ll leave it to each reader to interpret her words as they so choose.
http://hawaiifreepress.com/Main/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/92/Barack-Obama-Born-in-Hawaii.aspx


1,774 posted on 11/17/2008 1:25:33 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

The evidence has already been posted on several threads that this was a fraudulent story and there was no suit. When I saw the original story I said “case closed” and later wondered how this court could have ruled unless it had actually seen an official document. Inquiry showed that it was an AP frsud: no case, no document, no examination. In other words a LIE from start to finish.

Why are you not as skeptical of such a story? Did you believe Dan Rather’s fraud on Bush’s NG service too?

The Souter story was misinterpreted only by those who did not read accurately or who did not follow this closely. For those who did the truth immediately came out.


1,775 posted on 11/17/2008 1:31:17 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: arrogantsob

Do as Obama* says, not as Obama* does.

It’s good to be King.


1,776 posted on 11/17/2008 1:31:54 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: jamese777

All that was said was that Zero has a BC on file. Nothing was verified wrt the Factcheck fraud.

The quote disproved what you claimed and still claim.


1,777 posted on 11/17/2008 1:33:18 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: cherry

This new Freeper has two questions (I may be naive, so pls don’t flame me). One, does anyone know when the California Superior Court will address the Keyes writ? How is that timed/worked? In other words, when could we expect a decision from the Court?

Secondly. I’ve waded through an awful lot of posts on multiple threads trying to become as familiar with the facts as I can. I am very impressed by the work that has been done so far. Am convinced that we have something very fishy going on here, BUT.... why would no-one speak from Columbia, Harvard, the Health Dept in Hawaii, Occidental, you name it? I understand that current employees there would/could be fired on the spot for speaking up, but there have got to be folks that no longer work there who could provide details. I looked at the Harvard Law Review photo in that 6000+ post thread and was able to identify at least one person via googling his name. Found this gentleman on the web as being a lawyer with an existing email address. We could do this exercise for everyone on that photo. But the question remains, why is no-one speaking up? Am I the only one who thinks this is so odd? How can one keep that many people silent?


1,778 posted on 11/17/2008 1:36:31 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: arrogantsob

The announcement should be taken into account because the information in the announcement came from the birth hospital to the Vital Records Bureau. That is how the announcement made it into the paper. How can this be explained if indeed Obama was born in Kenya?

There is a difference between unsealing a record and releasing a record against state statute. There is a state law in Hawaii that prevents the release of the vault form. That was my only point. Not that it was impossible or wrong, just more complicated that some might think.


1,779 posted on 11/17/2008 1:37:48 PM PST by pa mom
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To: wbill

Well, if it’s kicked under the rug—your words—then this will mean that the Supreme Court has abdicated, and we will have no laws protecting the nation and its people. That’s the way I see it.


1,780 posted on 11/17/2008 1:39:13 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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