Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
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No Hawaii official has sworn in court anything about Zero’s BC so your statement is not true.
All they have said is that he has one on record.
Qualifications are verified when the EV are received by Congress in joint session as per the Constitution. At any point up till then there is no constitutional prohibition against as unqualified candidate running or even winning.
But they have been the driving force getting him elected & they have to live (or die)with it.
Well, good luck with this, but even if there were legs under this I bet it would be squashed from ALL sides to avoid the inevitable riots if it turned out against Obama.
Or “Pillsbury or Betty Crocker?”
And that is a good point. I do also see the validity of the argument which says that an official birth certificate was released. That certificate is the standard one for the state and would stand for proof of birth for a passport, etc.
Bear in mind I do not believe that the one released is a forgery. Certainly, those that do see this in an entirely different light.
To your post 109: President Bush COULD declare Martial Law and thereby extend his Presidency for two more years. At least that was what was explained to me. CO
Okay, they don’t have to act white. But my gosh, can’t we finally exorcise some fashion sins?!
The Left cannot run as avowed Socialists. The media has made sure that the Right cannot win running as avowed Conservatives. Until that is changed we are screwed.
By not actively choosing Indonesian citizenship, that is indeed a choice under Indonesian law. He did not have Indonesian citizenship as an adult.
I seem to recall a lot of griping over the Census selling data to telemarketers and others.
No he can’t. Read the Constitution. Pelosi would become President...until the electors straighten this out. DOH!!!
One of your earlier posts claimed that the birth announcement contained the place of birth. Then there was all this falderole resulting about the possibility of a far ranging conspiracy to obtain Natural status when that was not the point at all.
That announcement is of tangential import to this issue.
You did not address browardchad’s point at all. Merely repeating what he contradicted does nothing for your argument.
Oh God, that’s just as bad!! CO
Well, I'd agree with you, if it was newsanchors in front of the cameras pulling the strings.
However, the execs on the top floor have two allegiances...their shareholders, and the almighty dollar. And they're the ones really calling the shots. If there's a buck to be made by tossing Obama under the bus, then under the bus he'll go. Only questions are:
1) Do the Powers that Be know there's some question about his eligibilty? Seems like a no-brainer to us, but to those in the rareified atmosphere of Corporate Execdom, it may be an utter revelation.
2) Will the American People buy it? If there's one lone fringe wingnut (like some of the self-promoters that have brought charges on this) ....then I'd say "no", and the MSM will promptly ignore the story since it doesn't fit the storyline.
3) If the American People will buy it, can the MSM sell it? I'd say "yes" since marketing can sell ice cubes to Eskimos. However, if there is anything to the explanation more complicated than a five or six word sentence....all bets are off. Per my previous post "Obama isn't black, he's Cuban!" would be a death knell for Obama's campaign. However "Obama was originally born in HI, then renounced his citizenship when he moved to Indonesia, and now the entire thing is pretty murky from a legal standpoint." probably won't play in Peoria.
That's just my back of the envelope, off the cuff, $0.02 worth. I still think that this won't go anywhere, because there's nothing terribly horrific there, or because the issue will (likely by the SCOTUS) get kicked under the rug.
There are some very interesting Constitutional issues on all sides here. If the state has a statute which prohibits the release of the vault certificate (which it seems to have, I have been doing some research in some of my databases) then there are issues with the court requiring it. Sufficient damage has not been proven yet, which will be a condition of any case, as well.
I know, I know, you think there is damage, you think there is evidence you think the courts are politically biased. I am NOT dismissing that. I just want to point out the potentially precedent setting nature of some of this and some of the larger, less obvious issues that the courts will consider.
This is not presented as an argument, simply a bit of edification.
How do you know that...he never released the full version?
First of all we already know his mom was not 18 when he was born. And there is no need to allow a public examination of the BC information. Just allow the Court to examine it en camera. That is enough for this Right Wing fanatic.
If Ron Paul represents conservatism it is officially dead.
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