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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: rollo tomasi
If you think there is sufficient evidence that Obama is not a viable candidate (Until the EC meets he is not Pres. elect) take it up with the current President, George Bush.

So we can get the same kind of energetic defense of the Constitution he showed when he decided to let tens of millions of illegal aliens run around the country?

snicker

1,301 posted on 11/16/2008 8:24:22 AM PST by solfour
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To: seekthetruth

We all are, we may be coming down to the wire here.


1,302 posted on 11/16/2008 8:25:09 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: solfour

Thanks, very much,under two weeks now.


1,303 posted on 11/16/2008 8:26:24 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: concerned about politics
"Cleaning up something that ran down their legs after Obomas last speech."

Excellent! Now I now what that Chrissy Matthews "tingle down the leg" was all about.

1,304 posted on 11/16/2008 8:28:03 AM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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To: seekthetruth

Thanks! We may see some fruit from your approach.

I must now add a bit of doubt as to this avenue, or way of thinking, in discovering the owner of record of the birth announcement address in 1961. One could live at an address yet not be the owner of record; such as in renting the place, or being lent some space for living quarters by a helping hand. Nonetheless, one would use the address as a matter of record.


1,305 posted on 11/16/2008 8:33:01 AM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: rodguy911

“We all are, we may be coming down to the wire here.”

I hope so! The truth is all we want. If it turns out he is meeting the constitutional requirements than so be it. I will then have to accept that he will be our next President.

Until his BC and other documents are made public the questions will remain, but we will get to the truth sooner or later. Would be nice to know the truth before he is sworn in!


1,306 posted on 11/16/2008 8:35:30 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: solfour

1,307 posted on 11/16/2008 8:37:03 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: freepersup

“I must now add a bit of doubt as to this avenue, or way of thinking, in discovering the owner of record of the birth announcement address in 1961. One could live at an address yet not be the owner of record; such as in renting the place, or being lent some space for living quarters by a helping hand. Nonetheless, one would use the address as a matter of record.”

True. That could be the case and doubt a utility bill address could be researched with a renter’s name. Might just come to a dead end if in fact the family was renting or staying with another family.


1,308 posted on 11/16/2008 8:39:31 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: GoodDay

I am certainly interested to see what happens on November 18th and after December 1st when Justice Souter receives the Obama response to Berg’s Petition for a Writ of Certiorari.
Its just that on the basis of the lawsuits that have already been heard including Berg’s loss in the Federal District Court in Pennsylvania and Andy Martin’s loss with the Hawaii Supreme Court, I’m not expecting much.
I refuse to put faith in Berg, a Hillary Clinton operative and Martin, a man with a history of frivolous lawsuits and mental health issues.


1,309 posted on 11/16/2008 8:42:41 AM PST by jamese777
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To: GoodDay
I see him as composed of 70% ego and 30% intellect. He’s not so smart. The truth will eventually come out, whether he cares about those seeking it or not.

I think you should change that to 95% ego and 5% intellect. And any intellect the guy has displayed has been borrowed from those running his puppet show.

1,310 posted on 11/16/2008 8:49:57 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: jamese777

Thanks for posting that excerpt from the Virginia case, which includes language from Hawaiian law.

Still, I disagree with the judge and the decision in the Virginia case. Seems to me that he applied some legal tech to assist Obama in evading discovery.

Obama would have been named in that (and every other) suit, so his attorneys could have simply dispensed with the matter by producing a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate.

None of this legal wrangling is necessary, unless of course, you’ve got something to hide.

That is the final test of these cases.


1,311 posted on 11/16/2008 8:50:10 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jamese777
Right now, I have more faith in Leo Donafrio’s case before Justice Thomas this coming week and Alan Keyes case in the SC of California. Berg's case being heard before Donafrio’s may help to bring more attention to both Donafrio’s case and the Keyes case.

Noticed in the Keyes suit it was mentioned about 17 other suits being filed in courts at various state levels. Does anyone know what states have suits waiting to be heard at their respective state Supreme Courts?

1,312 posted on 11/16/2008 8:53:23 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: solfour
If you think there is sufficient evidence that Obama is not a viable candidate (Until the EC meets he is not Pres. elect) take it up with the current President, George Bush.

We all know Bush would never get involved in Obama's legitimacy issue. We're not able to even get the GOP or McCain involved -- it wouldn't be "honorable" for them to raise such questions and doubt the words of a US Senator.

It's going to be up to us to vigilantly observe and assist, and if we see the process continue to be hijacked -- take action.

Certainly can't count on reporters to investigate this ... they're too busy sucking up to their editors to get the Obama inauguration assignment

1,313 posted on 11/16/2008 8:58:53 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Pinkbell
"I’m telling you right now that if this man is declared inelligible to be President, there will be riots in the streets. "

Yes there will be riots and the nation will survive. If the Constitution is dismantled to prevent riots the nation will not survive.

1,314 posted on 11/16/2008 9:02:59 AM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy
If the Constitution is dismantled to prevent riots the nation will not survive.

Yep, better use it while you have it:

First Amendment to the United States Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press;
or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

1,315 posted on 11/16/2008 9:12:34 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: seekthetruth

It’s gonna get interesting, I don’t think he has a real BC showing him born in Hawaii that will pass forensic muster.
If that is the case how the hell was he ever allowed to be a candidate?


1,316 posted on 11/16/2008 9:18:31 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Gemsbok
"So many possibilities: Dunham, Little, Marshall, Obama, Soetoro --whose your daddy?"

I would say the man on the left: Marshall and not the man on the right Obama Sr.


1,317 posted on 11/16/2008 9:28:17 AM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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To: solfour
If you think there is sufficient evidence that Obama is not a viable candidate (Until the EC meets he is not Pres. elect) take it up with the current President, George Bush. So we can get the same kind of energetic defense of the Constitution he showed when he decided to let tens of millions of illegal aliens run around the country? snicker

Couldn't be said any better. I for one would not be sitting around waiting on the Bush DOJ, or any other agency that may have jurisdiction over vetting POTUS candidates (whomever that might be seems a mystery).
1,318 posted on 11/16/2008 9:32:02 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: seekthetruth
Would be nice to know the truth before he is sworn in!

Without knowing the truth zer0bama will be a suspect President for his entire term, more debated than that eevvvil Bush who stole two elections. /sarc
1,319 posted on 11/16/2008 9:33:49 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jamese777

“I refuse to put faith in Berg, a Hillary Clinton operative”

I don’t know what a “Hillary Clinton OPERATIVE” is. Could you explain, please? I know he supported HRC, and that he’s a lifelong Democrat, as well as a lifelong member of the NAACP. Are you wearing a tinfoil hat now and claiming that HRC (or her support group) is paying Berg to file this lawsuit? What does OPERATIVE mean in this context?

“and Martin, a man with a history of frivolous lawsuits and mental health issues.”

But you do put faith in a man with zero executive experience, a history of associating with far leftists of low character (as well as with felons and racists), a graduate of Columbia University whose fellow students and teachers seem not to remember him as ever being there, a graduate of Harvard Law School who wrote no academic papers, an adjunct professor at U. of Chicago who wrote or published no papers or articles and who refused to be on friendly terms with other faculty members, a candidate for POTUS who point-blank refused to release any of his school records (why? If the MSM keep touting his high IQ, do we really fear that he would have low grades? More likely scenario: he received financial aid as a FOREIGN student, thus outing his true status as ‘NON CITIZEN OF THE U.S.’ That’s a much more likely explanation for his refusal to release his school records. By the way, he has also, to my knowledge, never released his medical records.)

I also know that the memes of “serial filer of frivolous law suits” and “sufferer of mental illness” have been attached to both Berg and Martin at different times and by different people. What seems more likely is that these accusations are made BECAUSE of Berg’s and Martin’s inquiries into the birth certificate issue. According to the left’s lights, “they must be crazy to question the birth certificate” because — after all — “HE GOT LOTS OF VOTES.”


1,320 posted on 11/16/2008 9:52:39 AM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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