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Zogby Poll: Equilibrium in the POTUS Race! [McCain/Palin 47%, Obama/Biden 45%]
Zogby ^ | 8/30/08

Posted on 08/30/2008 8:02:20 PM PDT by charles m

Brash McCain pick of AK Gov. Palin neutralizes historic Obama speech, stunts the Dems' convention bounce

UTICA, New York - Republican John McCain's surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama's historic speech accepting his party’s presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows. Data from this poll is available here

The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.

In other words, the race is a dead heat.

The interactive online Zogby survey shows that both Obama and McCain have solidified the support among their own parties - Obama won 86% support of Democrats and McCain 89% of Republicans in a two-way head-to-head poll question not including the running mates. When Biden and Palin are added to the mix, Obama's Democratic support remains at 86%, while McCain's increases to 92%.

After the McCain "Veep" announcement on Friday, Palin was almost immediately hailed as a strong conservative, and those voters have rallied to the GOP ticket, the survey shows. Republicans gather in St. Paul, Minnesota this week to officially nominate McCain and Palin as their presidential ticket.

(Excerpt) Read more at zogby.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; alreadyposted; electionpresident; mccain; obama; palin; trysearch; zogby
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1 posted on 08/30/2008 8:02:20 PM PDT by charles m
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To: charles m

On Drudge now


2 posted on 08/30/2008 8:03:25 PM PDT by charles m (Ask not what what your country can do for you; ask what you can do to make Michelle Obama proud.)
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Folks, natiowide surveys don't help us gauge who is winning. Remember the year 2000 ? Al Gore won by over a million votes. Did that do him any good ?

So, national polls by Zogby, Rasmussen or Gallup do little to help us gauge the ultimate winner unless they break it down to the state by state level.

It is the ELECTORAL COLLEGE that determines the winner.

Keep a close eye on who will win the magic 270. Here's the relevant map and it does not look too good for McCain, national polls notwithstanding :

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
3 posted on 08/30/2008 8:06:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: charles m

Interesting comparison of Palin to Biden, showing more voters think she will help the ticket then when the same question was asked a week or so ago for the dem ticket.

Also of interest, Barr has a pretty strong showing, would love to see him included in the Debates, would love to see him drive McCain to the right:

The Four-way Horserace
Total
Dems
GOPers
Indies

Barr
5%
2%
4%
11%


4 posted on 08/30/2008 8:07:58 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: SeekAndFind

But it’s good to use to take the wind out of Obama’s hype. Hype fuels more hype.


5 posted on 08/30/2008 8:08:09 PM PDT by charles m (Ask not what what your country can do for you; ask what you can do to make Michelle Obama proud.)
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To: charles m

Is it just me or do I love the way the ticket’s names look:

McCain/Palin 47%
Obama/Biden 45%

McCain/Palin looks so much more presidential than Obama/Biden.


6 posted on 08/30/2008 8:10:16 PM PDT by charles m (Ask not what what your country can do for you; ask what you can do to make Michelle Obama proud.)
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To: traviskicks

Barr was never a factor against McCain.

Now he’s even less a factor.

No one in American really wants to hear him now.


7 posted on 08/30/2008 8:11:07 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: SeekAndFind

This one looks a bit better:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

If the race stays close, whoever wins Colorado is the next President.


8 posted on 08/30/2008 8:12:06 PM PDT by devere
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I think McCain might pull off PA too. Scanton boy isn’t really flying too well up there.


9 posted on 08/30/2008 8:14:22 PM PDT by charles m (Ask not what what your country can do for you; ask what you can do to make Michelle Obama proud.)
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To: charles m

At least the third time this has been posted


10 posted on 08/30/2008 8:14:25 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (All hail the empty toga!)
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To: devere

McCain and Palin will be in Colorado next week.


11 posted on 08/30/2008 8:16:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: charles m
Thanks for posting this. I've worked for about a dozen third-party or independent candidates for President. For reasons of ballot access, and practical use of one's votes, there ain't no way that Barr is going to draw 11% and Nadar draw 4%.

Nadar and Barr together aren't going to exceed 2%, total. Remember that Anderson in 1980 was AT 21% before the first debate, which was just Anderson and Reagan. Carter sat out that debate, gambling that Anderson would fade. Anderson did fade, was not invited to the second and final Presidential debate, and drew only 5% in the election. (And Anderson was on all 51 ballots. I know, because I designed his legal strategy.)

Nadar and Barr will NOT be invited to the Presidential Debates. Their support numbers will drop like a brick in a well. They will have no effect on the outcome.

Congressman Billybob

Tenth in the ten-part series, "The Owner's Manual (Part 10) -- The Remaining Amendments"

Latest article, "In Praise of Sweetness"

12 posted on 08/30/2008 8:18:00 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.theacru.org)
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To: charles m

Wow — McCain ahead on a Zogby poll??


13 posted on 08/30/2008 8:18:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: SeekAndFind
Keep a close eye on who will win the magic 270. Here's the relevant map and it does not look too good for McCain, national polls notwithstanding

A. This Zogby poll is shocking. Good news, but also shocking.

B. The GOP pretty much always does better in the electoral college than their national polling numbers suggest. The main reason is because they clean up in the EV rich Southern states. If McCain wins the national vote (still far from a given at this point), there is about 99.99% certainty that he will be the next POTUS.

C. The map you site is misleading because there are a number of states that McCain is within a swing of a point or two of taking from the Obama column. He doesn't even need all of them to hit 270.

Bottom line is McCain still has quite a bit of work to do, but he is very much within striking distance of taking the whole thing.

14 posted on 08/30/2008 8:19:17 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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I’m in the Scranton area. I know a nice old lady who is a Democrat through and through and is a bit of big shot politically. She told me she cannot get anyone to vote for Obama. This was before Biden, however. But Scranton is still very Catholic and I don’t think a pro-abortion guy who left town decades ago will help him much.


15 posted on 08/30/2008 8:21:16 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: charles m

heh-heh!


16 posted on 08/30/2008 8:31:18 PM PDT by luvie (McCain/PALIN--this is the start of something BIG for Republican hopes and prayers!)
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To: charles m

Historically a black candidate for office has had to have something like a ten or fifteen percent lead in polls to win. Doesn’t sound like Obama’s doing that...


17 posted on 08/30/2008 8:32:37 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: charles m; All
Folks- hate to burst your bubble, but this is an on-line poll... Means nothing... It's not the Reuters/Zogby traditional poll... That poll, done just before the Dem convention had McCain up by 5...

the 2 most reliable polls right now are Gallup- H up by 8, and Rasmussen, H up by 4... Best guess is H was up by 5 on the semi-avg of the 2, before Palin

18 posted on 08/30/2008 8:33:15 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- vote for Palin/McCain)
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To: NYC Republican

Agree with you, the online Zogby poll is pure BS, McCain’s lead notwithstanding. These types of polls have no history of any accuracy or even correlation with election results. While gratifying, I would wait for a traditional poll to show new numnbers.


19 posted on 08/30/2008 8:38:26 PM PDT by nwrep (Obama - the first Mohammedan to run for the White House)
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To: traviskicks

Barr included in the debates...oh, please!


20 posted on 08/30/2008 8:40:56 PM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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