[charles m]

On Drudge now

[SeekAndFind]

Folks, natiowide surveys don't help us gauge who is winning. Remember the year 2000 ? Al Gore won by over a million votes. Did that do him any good ?

So, national polls by Zogby, Rasmussen or Gallup do little to help us gauge the ultimate winner unless they break it down to the state by state level.

It is the ELECTORAL COLLEGE that determines the winner.

Keep a close eye on who will win the magic 270. Here's the relevant map and it does not look too good for McCain, national polls notwithstanding :

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

[traviskicks]

Interesting comparison of Palin to Biden, showing more voters think she will help the ticket then when the same question was asked a week or so ago for the dem ticket.

Also of interest, Barr has a pretty strong showing, would love to see him included in the Debates, would love to see him drive McCain to the right:

The Four-way Horserace
Total
Dems
GOPers
Indies

Barr
5%
2%
4%
11%

[charles m]

Is it just me or do I love the way the ticket’s names look:

McCain/Palin 47%
Obama/Biden 45%

McCain/Palin looks so much more presidential than Obama/Biden.

[impeachedrapist]

At least the third time this has been posted

[Congressman Billybob]

Thanks for posting this. I've worked for about a dozen third-party or independent candidates for President. For reasons of ballot access, and practical use of one's votes, there ain't no way that Barr is going to draw 11% and Nadar draw 4%.

Nadar and Barr together aren't going to exceed 2%, total. Remember that Anderson in 1980 was AT 21% before the first debate, which was just Anderson and Reagan. Carter sat out that debate, gambling that Anderson would fade. Anderson did fade, was not invited to the second and final Presidential debate, and drew only 5% in the election. (And Anderson was on all 51 ballots. I know, because I designed his legal strategy.)

Nadar and Barr will NOT be invited to the Presidential Debates. Their support numbers will drop like a brick in a well. They will have no effect on the outcome.

Congressman Billybob

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[Salvation]

Wow — McCain ahead on a Zogby poll??

[luvie]

heh-heh!

[wendy1946]

Historically a black candidate for office has had to have something like a ten or fifteen percent lead in polls to win. Doesn’t sound like Obama’s doing that...

[NYC Republican]

Folks- hate to burst your bubble, but this is an on-line poll... Means nothing... It's not the Reuters/Zogby traditional poll... That poll, done just before the Dem convention had McCain up by 5...

the 2 most reliable polls right now are Gallup- H up by 8, and Rasmussen, H up by 4... Best guess is H was up by 5 on the semi-avg of the 2, before Palin

[cdnerds]

Dead cat bounce for Obama! But I wouldn’t put it past Zogby to make Obama look like the come back kid...

[ll_t]

This is a Zogby Interactive poll. These are notoriously unreliable. For example, a previous one showed Obama winning in Arizona.

[newzjunkey]

[4woodenboats]

Mac is going to go up a point every time Sarah speaks.

Wait till the debates - she'll annihilate Biden, and Mac will whip uh-O like a nappy headed step child.